1. Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
November 2004
IEEE Wireless Interworking with External Networks (WIEN) Study Group
San Antonio
16th November 2004
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

2. 16 November 2004, 7.30pm – 9.30pm Call to Order
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16 November 2004, 7.30pm – 9.30pm
Call to Order
Sign in sheet & attendance
Secretary
Review IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures
Intellectual Property
Voting
All Registered Meeting Attendees May Vote
All Main Motions require 75%
Attendance
Study Group Attendance List
On-line Attendance reminder
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
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3. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or
b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002
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4. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share
Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions,
contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
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5. Study Groups Function Formation
November 2004
Study Groups
Function
The function of a Study Group (SG) is to complete a defined task with specific output and in a specific time frame. Once this task is complete, the function of the SG is complete and its charter expires.
The normal function of a SG is to draft a complete PAR and five criteria (see subclause 9.2) and to gain approval for them at WG , 802 EC, IEEE New Standards Committee (NesCom) and the IEEE Standards Board. The decision of whether to utilize the WG or to establish a new WG or TAG to carry out work items recommended by a SG is made by the 802 EC with advice from the WG.
Formation
A SG is formed when sufficient interest has been identified for a particular area of study within the scope of WG The first step in the process is a call for interest. Any WG member or observer can make this at the WG opening plenary. An SG can then be initiated by 75% approval of the WG and must be approved by the 802 EC. During this approval process the 802 EC decides whether a SG is within the scope of WG , should be moved to another WG or should be set up as an Executive Committee Study Group.
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

6. Continuation Study Group Operation
November 2004
Continuation
A SG exists for up to 6 months. If it has not completed its work within that time, a request must be made to the WG for an extension for up to additional 6 months. Any request for SG extension will be voted upon at the WG closing plenary.
Study Group Operation
SG follow the operating procedures for TG specified above with the following exceptions detailed below:
Study Group Meetings
SG meetings held adjunct to WG Plenary or Interim sessions count towards WG voting rights
Voting at Study Group Meetings
Any person attending a SG meeting may participate in SG discussions, make motions and vote on all motions (including recommending approval of a PAR and five criteria).
Attendance List
Since SGs may have members who are not part of the parent WG, a separate attendance list must be maintained for the meetings of the SG and will be submitted as a document to the WG Vice-Chair.
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

7. November 2004
Meeting Etiquette
"Individuals are to address the comments of others only, not the person"
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

8. Agenda Tuesday November 16 19:30 – 21:30 IEEE Policies and Procedures
Overview of last meeting (incl. open issues review)
Minutes from September Berlin meeting (1113, 1150)
PAR (506r9) and 5 Criteria (507r3) overview
Standardization & other bodies:
SSCAN
3GPP2
Technical Presentations
Roadmap discussion for SG/TG
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

9. Wednesday November 17 08:00 – 10:00
Agenda
Wednesday November :00 – 10:00
1st Hour ad-hoc session for review
Formal WIEN SG review
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

10. Objective of this session
November 2004
Objective of this session
Discussion and creation of requirements and down selection criteria documents for proposed Task Group
Produce roadmap for Study Group/Task Group
Address open issues list
Review ‘netsel’ IETF internet-draft
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

11. Month 2002
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IETF Review Document
“EAP Network Discovery and Selection Problem Description Document”
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
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Motion
Move to request that the IEEE Working Group extend the (WIEN) Study Group for another 6 months.
Moved:Stephen McCann
Second:Mike Moreton
Result:24,0,0
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
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Motion
Move to authorise the WIEN SG chair to draft a liaison letter to the IETF and forward this letter to the IEEE working group, said letter to include the following issues:
Scope of future work and division of problems between IETF and IEEE
Specific pre-association information
Beacon Issues.
Mover : Mike Moreton
Second : Dorothy Stanley
Result: 22,0,1
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
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14. Motion to Amend 802.11u PAR Title
November 2004
Motion to Amend u PAR Title
In order to clarify the efforts of the new u Task Group and align those efforts with WG, the title of the document, item 4 of the PAR be changed to:
“Amendment to Standard [for] Information Technology – Telecommunications and information exchange between systems –Local and Metropolitan networks –specific requirements –Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY) specifications: IEEE Interworking with External Networks”
Proposed: Stephen McCann
Seconder: Charles Wright
Results: 11,1,14
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

15. Motion to amend PAR Similar Scope
November 2004
Motion to amend PAR Similar Scope
WG feels that the following change would help to address the Similar Scope in relation to WIEN PAR. It is therefore moved to change the final paragraph of section 16 of the PAR from:
“It is worth noting that an agreement has been made between IEEE and IEEE WIEN SG to co-ordinate in avoiding any overlap in their scopes”
To “It is worth noting that an agreement has been made between IEEE and IEEE WIEN SG for an ongoing formal co-ordination in order to avoid any overlap in their scopes”
Proposed : Stephen McCann
Seconded: David Hunter
Result: 11,0,16
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

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Motion
Move to approve the PAR document IEEE /506r11, and 5 Criteria document IEEE /507r4, for the WIEN Study Group, and forward to ExCom for Approval
Moved by Stephen McCann
Second: Sheung Li
Result: 106,1,5
Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor
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