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1 RPIDS and tuple issues Henning Schulzrinne with help from Paul Kyzivat
SIMPLE WG (Interim Meeting, May 2003)

2 Open Issues From IETF56 SIMPLE minutes: Mailing list discussion
RPIDS as successor to PIDF? tuple semantics labeling elements: uniqueness across time, space, … Mailing list discussion

3 Step back: what do we want presence to support?
General notion of reachability for communications Generally, device-mediated Also, direct human-human communication (drop in and chat) Later, maybe status (“X is travelling, so no point in waiting for her to start the meeting”)

4 How does the system work?
RPIDS document (?) should spell out at least one scenario presence notification u1: p1,p2|p3 u2: p1,p4 u3:p5,p6 p1  u1 or u2 p1+p2  u1 p5, p5  u3 INVITE u1 Want: p1,p2,p9 caller callee

5 Open issues – what is a tuple?
Three models have been proposed: All share same AOR (e.g., selection via CP availability of caller preferences Custom-generated address for each capability set (maybe several for each device); e.g., longevity of address? tight relationship with proxy server Contact addresses representing devices; e.g., tel: , privacy how long is address valid? (watcher  address book) Not necessarily mutually exclusive – need all of them

6 Tuple semantics Tuple represents opaque entity, e.g., a group
easy, since few characteristics except “this is a group” intersection or union probably makes little sense Tuple represents media capability “reachable by audio” may be implemented by multiple devices Tuple represents device (or location) may become more important as location information increases can be represented either by host or user part: direct contact unique label

7 Tuple semantics audio video text home office mobile
yes no office yes, but low quality mobile can, but inappropriate now can’t preferred But really N-dimensional hypercube: arrange by ‘category’, ‘placetype’, ‘privacy’, … Thus, can’t hope to represent as anything but enumeration While number of descriptors is large and will grow, number of instances represented is likely to remain smallish (~3-5?) mobile multi-function devices make smaller number of devices seem likely

8 Tuple perspectives hide details of user devices (and maybe location or other aspects) sometimes, address could be used to guess user location or behavior (aol.com  home, mobile device  traveling) not all users will have the ability to create injective (1-1) identities want centralized policy enforcement point for simplicity focus on callee control provide details description insufficient for informed caller choice emphasis on caller empowerment

9 Anonymous tuples Tuples without contact
Current meaning: face-to-face communications Needed since presentity URI may not be usable by communications application (e.g., pres:) May also become useful for presence focused on activity e.g., track where rescue worker (soldier, nurse, Maytag repairman, …) is and environmental characteristics (heart rate, air temperature, …)

10 Tuple – resolution? Hard to anticipate uses UI considered solvable:
 document choices and trade-offs UI considered solvable: represent as enumeration or table (matrix) with properties in either case use <note> to provide hints Can’t rely on caller preferences for the near future should we require support on caller side for disambiguation? (Opinion: policy issue)

11 Open issues - label PIDF defines "id" tuple tag
allows to replace changed tuples without sending all the unchanged ones not clear from spec who modifies (PA?) and what its lifetime is Separate "label" tag proposed similar semantics, but set by presentity and left alone by PA for policy filtering ("only show 'class=minimal' items when notifying low-bandwidth watchers") Cf. Cascading Style Sheets (CSS): "id" = unique across document "class" = type of element

12 Proposal: Labeling Support class parameter/label: Identifier (id):
similar to <div class=X></div> semantics in HTML and CSS one-to-many: one class, many tuples each tuple can have at most one class inherited (if supported in RPIDS) used for filtering and policy Identifier (id): for identification (replace, edit, delete) of specific tuples unique across all tuples for presentity should not be re-used e.g., time of initial creation of tuple


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