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1 TGMb – Report Date: 2008-03-18 Authors: March 2008 March 2008
doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 TGMb – Report Date: Authors: Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

2 doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/0390r0 Tuesday March 18, 2008 1:30PM – 3:30PM
TGmb Tuesday March 18, 2008 1:30PM – 3:30PM Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

3 Announcements Meeting documents: Meeting attendance sign-in
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Announcements Meeting attendance sign-in Meeting documents: (select “Document Server”) Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

4 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes Document: 07/2922r0 Review IEEE Patent Policy Review and process new interpretation requests TPC (transmit power control) interpretation EIRP P clause: TGMb Timeline updates and PARs Plans for May 2008 New business Adjourn Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

5 Motion Move to approve Agenda Moved by: terry cole 2ND Arian Stevens
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Motion Move to approve Agenda Moved by: terry cole 2ND Arian Stevens Results: Approved by unianous consent Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

6 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes Document: 07/2922r0 Review IEEE Patent Policy Review and process new interpretation requests TPC (transmit power control) interpretation EIRP P clause: TGMb Timeline updates and PARs Plans for May 2008 New business Adjourn Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

7 Move to approve November 2007 Minutes doc: 07/2922r0
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Motion Move to approve November Minutes doc: 07/2922r0 Moved by: Adrian Stevens 2nd Bob O’Hara Results: Approved UC Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

8 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes Document: 07/2922r0 Review IEEE Patent Policy Review and process new interpretation requests TPC (transmit power control) interpretation EIRP P clause: TGMb Timeline updates and PARs Plans for May 2008 New business Adjourn Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

9 Operating Policies and Procedures
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Operating Policies and Procedures Operating Policies and Procedures in order of priority IEEE Project 802 LMSC Policies and Procedures LMSC_P&P_ Approved July 2007 Revised January 2008 IEEE Working Group Policies and Procedures Document IEEE r4 for Robert’s Rules of Order Latest Edition Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates 11 Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

10 March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Member Affiliation It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation. Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

11 Declaration of Affiliation
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Declaration of Affiliation Revision: May 2007 Standards Board Bylaw Openness Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open toa all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors. Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

12 March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 Affiliation Policy March 2008 Requirement to declare affiliation at all standards development meetings and recorded in the minutes Affiliation not necessarily same as employer Declaration requirement may be familiar to some 802 WGs, though WG declaration process may evolve 11. What if I refuse to disclose my affiliation? As outlined in IEEE-SA governance documents, you will lose certain rights. In a working group where voting rights are gained through attendance, no attendance credit will be granted if affiliation isn’t declared. Similarly, voting rights are to be removed if affiliation isn’t declared. Affiliation declaration will be added to Sponsor ballot Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

13 March 2008 http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

14 March 2008 http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

15 March 2008 http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

16 March 2008 http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

17 March 2008 http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

18 March 2008 March 2008 doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/0390r0
Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

19 Question to the members
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Question to the members Chair: Are there any essential patents or patent applications of which the members are aware, for which the Working group chair needs to be notified? Response:__NO______ Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

20 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes Document: 07/2922r0 Review IEEE Patent Policy Review and process new interpretation requests TPC (transmit power control) interpretation EIRP P clause: TGMb Timeline updates and PARs Plans for May 2008 New business Adjourn Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

21 Interpretation Request
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Interpretation Request TPC (transmit power control) interpretation EIRP P clause: The TPC report element refers in many places to "transmit power" yet the transmit power value must be +-5 dB of an EIRP. Further, there is no single value for a STA's EIRP since EIRP varies by azimuth and elevation. Therefore it seems that where says EIRP or transmit power, it really means maximum EIRP. Requested by: Brian Hart - Cisco Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

22 March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 WG Motion -TGMb Move to approve doc: m as the interpretation response to interpretation request on Transmit Power Control as specified in P clause Moved by: Roger D 2nd Brian Hart Results; Approved by UC Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

23 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes Document: 07/2922r0 Review IEEE Patent Policy Review and process new interpretation requests TPC (transmit power control) interpretation EIRP P clause: TGMb Timeline updates and PARs Plans for May 2008 New business Adjourn Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

24 Timeline TGmb March 2008 March 2008 doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/0390r0 Title
TGma – Actual TGmb- Proposed PAR Approved/Expires March 20, 2003 3/22/2007 – 12/31/2011 WG letter ballot March 29, 2005 March 2009 WG Recirculation D2.0 – 7/7/2005 D3.0 – 8/8/2005 D4.0 – 9/9/2005 July 2009 Form Sponsor Ballot Poll Aug 21, 2005 Aug 2009 Sponsor Ballot D5.0 Oct 21, 2005 Oct 2009 Sponsor Recirculation D6.0 April 10, 2006 D7.0 June 21, 2006 D8.0 Aug 25, 2006 D9.0 Nov 7, 2006 April 2010 Final WG Approval Nov 8, 2006 Nov 2010 Final EC Approval RevCom Approval March 8, 2007 March 2011 Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

25 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Proposed Agenda Approve November 2007 Meeting minutes Document: 07/2922r0 Review IEEE Patent Policy Review and process new interpretation requests TPC (transmit power control) interpretation EIRP P clause: TGMb Timeline updates and PARs Plans for May 2008 New business Adjourn Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

26 Goal for May 2008 Nominations for TGMb Chairman
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Goal for May 2008 Nominations for TGMb Chairman Process any incoming interpretation requests Revise PAR – Text PAR Modification Call for Maintenance Change Submissions Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

27 Motion Move to Adjourn Moved by: Jon Rosdahl 2ND Arian Stevens
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Motion Move to Adjourn Moved by: Jon Rosdahl 2ND Arian Stevens Results: Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

28 TGMb Closing Report Summary
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 TGMb Closing Report Summary Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

29 Interpretation Request
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Interpretation Request TPC (transmit power control) interpretation EIRP P clause: The TPC report element refers in many places to "transmit power" yet the transmit power value must be +-5 dB of an EIRP. Further, there is no single value for a STA's EIRP since EIRP varies by azimuth and elevation. Therefore it seems that where says EIRP or transmit power, it really means maximum EIRP. Requested by: Brian Hart - Cisco Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

30 Interpretation Response
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Interpretation Response Interpretation Response doc: m Response Interpretation Number: 1-07/07 (P Clause ) Topic: Transmit Power Control - EIRP Classification: Unambiguous The transmit power is defined in P in clause The standard provides no additional detail. The question of whether additional detail is needed will be forwarded to the working group for consideration in the next revision of the P standard. Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

31 March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 WG Motion -TGMb Move to approve doc: m as the interpretation response to interpretation request on Transmit Power Control as specified in P clause Moved by: Roger D 2nd Brian Hart Results; Approved by UC Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

32 Timeline TGmb March 2008 March 2008 doc.: IEEE 802.11-08/0390r0 Title
TGma – Actual TGmb- Proposed PAR Approved/Expires March 20, 2003 3/22/2007 – 12/31/2011 WG letter ballot March 29, 2005 March 2009 WG Recirculation D2.0 – 7/7/2005 D3.0 – 8/8/2005 D4.0 – 9/9/2005 July 2009 Form Sponsor Ballot Poll Aug 21, 2005 Aug 2009 Sponsor Ballot D5.0 Oct 21, 2005 Oct 2009 Sponsor Recirculation D6.0 April 10, 2006 D7.0 June 21, 2006 D8.0 Aug 25, 2006 D9.0 Nov 7, 2006 April 2010 Final WG Approval Nov 8, 2006 Nov 2010 Final EC Approval RevCom Approval March 8, 2007 March 2011 Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

33 Interpretation Request and Responses 2006-2008
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Interpretation Request and Responses Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

34 Interpretation Responses
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Interpretation Responses Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

35 Goal for May 2008 Nominations for TGMb Chairman
March 2008 doc.: IEEE /0390r0 March 2008 Goal for May 2008 Nominations for TGMb Chairman Process any incoming interpretation requests Revise PAR – Text PAR Modification Call for Maintenance Change Submissions Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates Al Petrick, Jones-Petrick & Associates

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