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May 2010 Mesh Meeting Agenda
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 May 2010 May 2010 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: Authors: Name Address Affiliation Phone Dee Denteneer HTC 37; 5656 AE Eindhoven; The Netherlands Philips Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Beijing, Cn May 17-20, 2010 Chair: Dee Denteneer (Philips) Vice Chair: Guido Hiertz (Philips) Temporary Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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General Flow of the TGs Meeting
March 2010 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Administrivia Assignments of comments Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Tuesday AM1: leadership elections PAR extension timeline Wednesday Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Dee Denteneer; Philips
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Miscellaneous Announcements
March 2010 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Dee Denteneer; Philips
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March 2010 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: Anti-Trust: IEEE Ethics: Letter of Assurance Form: IEEE Patent Committee: IEEE Patent Policy: Patent FAQ: Dee Denteneer; Philips
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Patent Related Links March 2010 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Dee Denteneer; Philips
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Automated Attendance Recording
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: or or just Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Presentation queue Rene: 546r0, Emergency services
March 2010 Presentation queue Rene: 546r0, Emergency services Ashish: 547, cs-resolutions Kaz: 540r0, Beaconing-Sync Kaz: 538, General frame format Dan: 522, SAE comments Michael: 509, RFI comments Jarkko: 509, power management Dee: 502, MCCA comments Dee Denteneer; Philips
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Monday, 17 May 2010 14:30-18:00 Secretary selection
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 17 May :30-18:00 Secretary selection Call Meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Automated attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Meeting Agenda Get on 1 page Status update Assignments All comments are equal but some are more equal than others Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 17 May :00-18:00 Moved, to include the “late comments” contributed to LB161 identified by CIDs as regular comments in the TG s comments resolution process Moved: Seconded: YNA Get going Discussion on emergency services: 546r0 Presentations Recess until 19:30 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 17 May :00-18:00 All comments are equal, but some are more equal than others 19 no votes: 7 with comments; 12 without comments Comments part of no votes: see column “H” General: 23 (G-edit: 8, G-frame: 9) MAC: 34 (M-MCCA: 13; M-BS: 9; M-PM: 5) RFI: 4 (R-HWMP: 2, R-LM: 2) Security: 11 (S-General 5; S-SAE: 4) Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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General March 2010 General total closed open assignee resolved
remaining G-Base 3 1 2 G-Def 4 G-Discovery G-Editor 57 Kazuyuki G-Frame 16 12 G-General 8 5 G-Architecture G-Emergency 15 Rene 11 G-MIB G-PICS 108 86 22 Dee Denteneer; Philips
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MAC March 2010 MAC total closed Open Assignee Resolved Remaining M-BS
27 Kazuyuki 14 13 M-CC 2 M-CS 4 Ashish M-General M-MCCA 107 Guido/Dee 58 49 M-PM 9 Jarkko M-QoS M-11n 3 Liwen 161 81 80 Dee Denteneer; Philips
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RFI March 2010 RFI total closed Open Assignee Resolved Remaining R-LM
1 R-Frame R-FWD 10 8 R-General R-HWMP 75 39 36 R-MeshGate 13 3 R-Proxy 6 R-PU 5 114 50 64 Dee Denteneer; Philips
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Security March 2010 Security total closed Open Assignee Resolved
Remaining S-General 7 Dan S-Editorial 3 S-Frame 1 S-E2E S-PLM 6 S-SAE 21 12 9 38 26 Dee Denteneer; Philips
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Monday, 17 May 2010 19:30-21:30 Call Meeting to Order
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 17 May :30-21:30 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until Tuesday 8:00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Tuesday, 18 May 2010 8:00-10:00 Call Meeting to Order
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Tuesday, 18 May :00-10:00 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Time line discussion and Professional Editing PAR extension Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Tuesday, 18 May :00-10:00 (TBD) Moved, to re-affirm or elect the following Officers and to adopt the recommendation below for TGs chair: Secretary, TBD () Technical Editor, re-affirm: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) TGs vice-Chair, Recommendation to WG: Guido Hiertz (Philips) TGs Chair, Recommendation to WG: Dee Denteneer (Philips) Moved: Second: Yes: No: Abstain: Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Tuesday, 18 May 2010 8:00-10:00 (TBD) Approval of Minutes: Motions
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Tuesday, 18 May :00-10:00 (TBD) Approval of Minutes: Orlando meeting minutes: 11-10/381r1 Teleconference minutes: April 28, 2010: 11-10/488r0; May 6, 2010: 11-10/504r0 May 13, 2010: 11-10/535r0 Motions Presentations Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until Tuesday AM2 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:30-12:30 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Tuesday, 18 May :30-12:30 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until Tuesday PM2 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Tuesday, 18 May :00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until Wednesday PM2 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:00-18:00 (TBD)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Wednesday, 19 May :00-18:00 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until Thursday 8:00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Thursday, 20 May 2010 8:00-10:00 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 20 May :00-10:00 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Comment resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 10:30 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:30-12:30 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 20 May :30-12:30 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Comment resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 16.00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 20 May :00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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November 2009 doc.: IEEE P /1099r1 November 2009 Thursday, 20 May :00 – 18:00 Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00 – 18:00 Motion:
November 2009 doc.: IEEE P /1099r1 November 2009 Thursday, 20 May :00 – 18:00 Motion: Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from LB#161 on P802.11s Draft 5.0 as contained in document 11-10/478TBD, Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 6.0 incorporating these resolutions and, Approve a 15 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11s Draft 6.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?” Moved by <name> on behalf of TGs TGs vote: Moved: <name>, Seconded: <name>, Result: y-n-a Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Thursday, 20 May 2010 Telcons: wednesdays,
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 20 May 2010 Telcons: wednesdays, Time: either 10 am ET or 5 pm ET Strawpoll Prefer 10 am ET Prefer 5 pm ET Motion, moved to schedule TGs teleconferences on … at 10:00 ET for a maximum duration of 90 minutes. Mover:, Seconder: Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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Thursday, 20 May 2010 Adjourn sine die
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 20 May 2010 Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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[Reference Information]
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: 11-10/ 32r3 Resolution of Letter Ballot #159 Comments Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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[Reference Information]
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 [Reference Information] TGs Chairmen Dee Denteneer, Guido R. Hiertz (temporary Chairman), September 2009 Stuart J. Kerry (temporary Chairman), June 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, May 2004 – July 2009 TGs Technical Editors: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 … D3.0 … Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02 Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 … D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 … D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes January 2010, Los Angeles, CA, 11-10/102r0 November 2009, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-09/1223/0 September 2009, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-09/1016r0 July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0 May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0 March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0 January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0 November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0 September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips
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