November 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda

November 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 November 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: Authors: Name Address Affiliation Phone Donald Eastlake 3rd 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA USA Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Dallas, Texas 10-13 November, 2008 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (Motorola) Technical Editor: Anthony Maida (3eTI) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/1194r8 Dallas Hyatt Regency
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Venue Dallas Hyatt Regency Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

General Flow of the TGs Meeting
November 2008 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Ad Hoc Meeting Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Tuesday Wednesday Security Presentations Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 10 November 2008 08:00– 09:30 (Cumberland B Room)
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Monday, 10 November :00– 09:30 (Cumberland B Room) Call ad hoc meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Selection of Secretary Dee Denteneer Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Approval of Agenda Status of TGs Draft and Comment Resolutions Draft D2.02 “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r23 The substance of comments 374, 763, and 1065 are not to be discussed The chair has, in , asked the submitters of these three comments to withdraw them. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Monday, 10 November :00– 09:30 (Cumberland B Room) Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft CIDs 71, 509, 1093, 1631, and 1719 which are currently resolved as Reject but with a blank Resolution Note. Results of discussion are in 11-08/1316r1 “Fix up some Rejects” Straw Poll: Interest in various subgroups for comment resolution? MAC: Security: 6 RFI: 5 General: 0 Divide into three subgroups for ad hoc comment resolution as follows: MAC – Guido Hiertz Security – Jesse Walker RFI – Guenael Strutt Reconvene and Adjourn ad hoc meeting Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Monday, 10 November :00– 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) Call meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Selection of Secretary Dee Denteneer Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Approval of Agenda Approval of Minutes: Waikoloa meeting minutes: 11-08/1078r0 Teleconference minutes: September 17, 11-08/1195r0 October 15, 11-08/1230r0 Monday morning ad hoc minutes: 11-08/1320r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Miscellaneous Announcements
November 2008 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

November 2008 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: Anti-Trust: IEEE Ethics: Letter of Assurance Form: IEEE Patent Committee: IEEE Patent Policy: Patent FAQ: Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Patent Related Links November 2008 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Call for Potentially Essential Patents
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Automated Attendance Recording
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: or or just Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 10 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room)
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Monday, 10 November :00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) Status of TGs Draft and Comment Resolutions Draft D2.02 “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r23 The substance of comments 374, 763, and 1065 are not to be discussed The chair has, in , asked the submitters of these three comments to withdraw them. Presentation and Discussion on Process “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1326r0 Presentations: “SAE Cleanup”, 11-08/1264r0, Dan Harkins Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 10 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room)
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Monday, 10 November :00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) Straw Poll: Interest in subgroups for comment resolution? MAC: Security: RFI: General: 1 Divide into subgroups for comment resolution: MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda Security – Jesse Walker Reconvene group. Moved, To adopt the changes to the draft in 11-08/1264r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Malik Audeh Seconded: Jesse Walker Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes > ¾) Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 10 November 2008 19:30 – 21:30 Call Meeting to Order
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Monday, 10 November :30 – 21:30 Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, to amend the comment resolutions adopted by the 2nd motion on Slide 34 of 11-08/935r14 by replacing occurrences of “11-08/yyyyr0” in the Resolution Notes with “11-08/1104r0”. Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Dee Denteneer Adopted by unanimous consent Moved, to adopt all comment resolutions in 11-08/493r23 with Resolution Status (column P) = “Open” and Resolution Code (column V) = “Accept” or “Counter” and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Michael Bahr Seconded: Dee Denteneer Yes: No: 0 Abstain: (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Monday, 10 November :30 – 21:30 Moved, to adopt the motion in 11-08/1316r1 “Fix up some Rejects” changing 5 resolutions in the comment resolution spread sheet. Moved: Michael Bahr Seconded: Malik Audeh Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 1 (passes > ¾) “Straw Poll: Interest in comment resolution subgrous? MAC: 5 Security: 1 RFI: 5 General: 1 Divide into subgroups: MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda RFI – Guenael Strutt Reconvene and recess until Tuesday 10:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 11 November 2008 10:30 – 12:30 (Cumberland B Room)
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Tuesday, 11 November :30 – 12:30 (Cumberland B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Announcement of 11-08/493r24 Incorporates motions passed yesterday and has 44 lines with resolution updates from yesterday which, if adopted, would close 34 comments. Presentations: “Selection of a Mesh Security Protocol using the Mesh Profile”, 11-08/1338r0, Steve Emeott Straw Poll: Are you interested in adding a mesh security protocol identifier to the mesh profile? Yes: No: Don’t Know: 11 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Tuesday, 11 November :30 – 12:30 (Cumberland B Room) “Avoiding Interactions with Lazy-WDS Equipment”, 11-08/278r5, Javier Cardona “3-Address Mesh Broadcast Frames”, 11-08/383r2, Javier Cardona Straw Poll: Are you in favor of the Draft changes in 11-08/383r2? Yes: No: 0 Chair announced: Number of comments with a blank Resolution Code in 11-08/493r24: General: 1 MAC: RFI: Security: 0 Straw Poll: Interest in comment resolution subgroups? MAC: RFI: Security: 3 General: 1 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Tuesday, 11 November :30 – 12:30 (Cumberland B Room) Divide into subgroups for comment resolution: MAC – Guido Hiertz RFI – Guenael Strutt Security – Donald Eastlake Recombine and recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Tuesday, 11 November :30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/493r24 with Column X not blank except that for CIDs 10 and 1149, the Resolution Code is changed to Defer, and direct the Editor to incorporate the Accept and Counter resolutions into the Draft. Moved: Kazuyuki Sakoda Seconded: Guido Hiertz Yes: No: Abstain: (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Tuesday, 11 November :30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) Presentations “Resolving some SAE comments”, 11-08/1355r2, Dan Harkins “Simple Improvement for EDCA Usage in s”, 11-08/1357r9, Guido Hiertz Straw Poll: Are you interested in seeing normative text for the basic concept presented in 11-08/1357r9? Yes: 8 No: 1 Befuddled or Don’t Know: 0 Divide into subgroups for comment resolution: MAC – Guido Hiertz RFI – Guenael Strutt Security – Jesse Walker Reconvene and recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 11 November 2008 19:30 – 21:30 (Parlor 362)
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Tuesday, 11 November :30 – 21:30 (Parlor 362) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-08/383r2 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft resolving CIDs 845, 961, and 1011 with Accept. Moved: Javier Cardona Seconded: Guido Hiertz Yes: 7 No: 0 Abstain: 2 The group worked on material for the TGs Closing Report. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 11 November 2008 19:30 – 21:30 (Parlor 362)
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Tuesday, 11 November :30 – 21:30 (Parlor 362) Straw Poll: Interest in comment resolution subgroups: Mac: RFI: Security: General: 1 Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:00 – 10:00 (Cumberland B Room)
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Wednesday, 12 November :00 – 10:00 (Cumberland B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder The Chair announced the availability of 11-08/493r25. r25 has 42 more comments closed due to motions passed yesterday. That’s a total of 79 closed so far this week. Security Presentations “November PLM Comment Resolutions”, 11-08/1270r2, “Updates on PLM Text”, 11-08/1269r1, Jesse Walker “Mesh Key Distribution Proposal”, r0, Jesse Walker Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Wednesday, 12 November :00 – 10:00 (Cumberland B Room) Security Presentations (cont.) “Upgrades to MSA to support multiple MKD”, 11-08/1361r0, Tony Braskich Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Wednesday, 12 November :30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Security Presentations (cont.) “A Modest Proposal”, 11-08/1263r0, Dan Harkins Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/493r25 with Column X non-blank and direct the Editor to incorporate those with Resolution Code of “Accept” or “Counter” into the Draft. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Wednesday, 12 November :30 – 15:30 (Cumberland B Room) Moved, to adopt the Draft changes in 11-08/1269r3 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft resolving several comments as shown in r2. Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Pending Presentations
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Pending Presentations “HT Features in 11s Mesh Network”, 11-08/1258r, Liwen Chu “Sync related comment resolution text”, 11-08/1324r2, Kazuyuki Sakoda “Channel switch across the regulatory class comment resolution”, 11-08/1370r0, Kazuyuki Skoda Preparation of “TGs Dallas Closing Report”, 11-08/1369r0, Donald Eastlake 11-08/1355r3, Dan Harkins Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Wednesday, 12 November :00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room)
doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 Thursday, 13 November :00 – 18:00 (Cumberland B Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance recording reminder Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences “TGs Process, November”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1326r1 Other Technical Presentations “Current status of project open80211s”, Javier Cardona, 11-08/1313r0. Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Reference Information]
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: 11-08/493r25: Resolution of Letter Ballot #126 Comments TGs Technical Editors: Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 through D2.02 Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
November 2008 doc.: IEEE P /1194r8 November 2008 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 May 2008, ad hoc meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2 November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0 September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0 June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0 Recent Teleconference Minutes July 23, Aug 6, Aug 20, 11-08/936r0, 11-08/960r0, 11-08/989r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

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