1. Glenn Parsons gparsons@nortelnetworks.com
lemonade
Eric Burger
Glenn Parsons
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3. Scribes and Transcribes
JABBER details
Room: lemonade Server: ietf.xmpp.org Logs:
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4. Agenda Agenda Bashing (Chairs) 10 min Goals (Glenn) 10 min
MMS Mapping (Randy) 10 min
Extensions
IMAP push/pull (Randy) 30 min
URL Auth (Chris) 10 min
IMAP compose (Pete?) 10 min
IMAP4 profile 5 min
IMAP4 Channel (Eric) 5 min
S2S Notifications (Gev) 20 min
Next Steps & Milestones 10 min
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5. A reminder of our main activities
Charter Enhancements to Internet to support diverse service environments
LEMONADE Goals
IMAP4 extensions for VM playback
IMAP4 extensions for diverse endpoints
IMAP4 profile for diverse endpoints
Server-to-Server Notification Protocol
Translation to and from other messaging systems
A reminder of our main activities
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6. Kue Wong draft-ietf-lemonade-goals-01
Requirements Draft
Kue Wong
draft-ietf-lemonade-goals-01
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7. LEMONADE Goals De-emphasize the requirements aspect
does not strictly define requirements except so far as to reiterate those in the charter
Focus on context and motivation
documenting the thinking going into the lemonade design process.
use-cases giving rise to certain desirable functionality as well as a collection of suggested solution approaches.
Supporting descriptive background remains
TUI concept now described as a subset of mobile messaging context and not be emphasized as a separate profile.
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8. Randy Gellens draft-gellens-lemonade-mms-mapping-00
This is a WG document
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9. IMAP push / IMAP pull Randy Gellens draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-submit-01
draft-royer-lemonade-submit-00
draft-newman-lemonade-compose-00
draft-crispin-imap-urlauth-04
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10. IMAP push - pull Decision:
Do we want to progress 1 or 2 or n solutions
IMAP push
IMAP pull …
If only 1, do we know enough now to make this decision or do we need to flesh out more of the details
Decide based on current draft
Decide based on detailed technical proposals
IETF solution
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11. IMAP4 profile LEMONADE profile, similar to
VPIM
IFAX
IVM
Not appropriate to start until new IMAP4 extensions are sufficiently along
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12. Eric Burger draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-channel-00
IMAP Channel & Use
Eric Burger
draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-channel-00
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13. S2S Notification Requirements
Gev Dektor
draft-decktor-s2s-notif-00.txt
Make a WG doc??? - Yes
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14. Deliverables LEMONADE Goals IMAP4 extensions for VM playback
- draft-ietf-lemonade-goals-01.txt
IMAP4 extensions for VM playback
- draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-channel-00.txt
IMAP4 extensions for diverse endpoints
- draft-ietf-lemonade-imap-submit-01.txt - IMAP compose
IMAP4 profile for diverse endpoints
Server-to-Server Notification Protocol
-draft-decktor-s2s-notif-00.txt
Translation to and from other messaging systems
- draft-gellens-lemonade-mms-mapping-00.txt
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15. Milestones
Jun 03   Submit LEMONADE requirements and architecture specification to the IESG
Jul 03   Submit server to server notification protocol to the IESG
Sep 03   Submit IMAP4 and message submission extensions for streaming multimedia to the IESG
Nov 03   Submit IMAP4 profile for mobile devices to the IESG
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16. Milestones proposed update
Jan 04   Submit LEMONADE goals and use-cases specification to the IESG
Jan 04   Submit server to server notification requirements to the IESG
Jan 04   Submit IMAP4 extensions for streaming multimedia to the IESG
Apr 04   Submit IMAP4 extensions for forwarding without download to the IESG
Jul 04   Submit IMAP4 profile for mobile devices to the IESG
Jul 04   Submit translation to other messaging systems to the IESG
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17. Thanks! Mail List: Supplemental Draft Page
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