1. May 2005 Mesh Agenda Authors: May 2005 Date: 2005-05-19 May 2005
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May 2005 Mesh Agenda
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Authors:
Name
Address
Company
Phone
Donald Eastlake 3rd
111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA
Motorola
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2. IEEE 802.11s: ESS Mesh Networking Task Group
May 2005
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IEEE s: ESS Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Cairns, Far North Queensland, Australia
16-18 May 2005
Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
Technical Editor: Steve Conner – Recording Secretary: Stephen Rayment
Temporary Secretary: Lily Yang
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3. Estimated General Flow of the TGs Meeting
May 2005
Estimated General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday Evening
Administrivia and Status of the Task Group
Task Group Process Discussion and Development of Proposal Presentation and Selection Procedures
Tuesday
Other Presentations
Brief Presentations Related to Proposals
Wednesday
Panels of Proposal Presenters
Votes on teleconferences/ad-hoc meetings
Thursday Morning
Joint meeting with TGu
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4. Monday Evening, 16 May 2005 Meeting Room 2, 19:30-21:30
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Monday Evening, 16 May 2005 Meeting Room 2, 19:30-21:30
Call to Order
Selection of Secretary for the May Meeting: Lily Yang
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property and Inappropriate Topics
Attendance / File Server for Cairns Meeting, Mailing Lists
Minutes
Minutes of the March 2005 Meeting, 11-05/261r0, approved unanimously
Minutes of the Teleconference held 20 April 2005, 11-05/341r1, approved unanimously
Agenda
approved unanimously
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

5. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
May 2005
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
6. Patents
IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or
b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002, Reaffirmed May 2005
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6. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings
Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share
Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions,
contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002
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7. Attendance Recording -802.11
May 2005
Attendance Recording
A sign-in sheet will be located at the Registration desk
Each member must sign-in “once” (1) per day, between the hours of 0800 and 1800 local time
Participants must “sign” their name in the appropriate place and state % of attendance that day in
Attendance will be checked against other 802 groups.
Those found abusing the honor system will loose ALL credit for that day.
These sheets are provided daily. If you don’t sign up during the “regular sign-in” hours, you will NOT be given credit for that day.
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8. ftp://server/ May 2005 IP Address: 10.0.0.5 www.802wirelessworld.com
Will NOT be used for this
Session!
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9. ftp://server/802-11/ Upload ALL Submissions
May 2005
ftp://server/802-11/
Upload ALL Submissions
Into the INCOMING Documents
folder
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10. May 2005
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11. May 2005
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12. May 2005
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13. Monday Evening, 16 May 2005 (continued) 19:30-21:30
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Monday Evening, 16 May (continued) 19:30-21:30
Status of Task Group, Donald Eastlake 3rd
35 Notices received of intent to submit a proposal received and accepted, 11-05/112r11
9 brief proposal linked presentations in March
10 requests for proposal linked presentation slots at May meeting
We have a request from TGw to see if we have any requirements for them
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

14. Monday Evening, 16 May 2005 (continued) 19:30-21:30
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Monday Evening, 16 May (continued) 19:30-21:30
Presentations, Discussion, and Votes on Process
“TGs Process”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-05/366r0
“TGs Downselect Alternative Timelines”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-05/295r1
“TGs Selection Procedure”, Juan Carlos Zuniga, 11-05/274r4
Section 1 reviewed
Straw poll on method of summation after presentations and before vote:
2 none
20 solo summaries of around 5 minutes
10 panels
Modified to resolve other comments by attendees
Section 3 reviewed and discussed but comments not resolved
Recess until 10:30 Tuesday
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

15. Tuesday Morning, 17 May 2005 Meeting Room 3, 10:30-12:30
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Tuesday Morning, 17 May 2005 Meeting Room 3, 10:30-12:30
Manual attendance reminder
Presentations, Discussion, and Votes on Process
“TGs Selection Procedure”, Juan Carlos Zuniga, 11-05/274r5
Reviewed and resolved comments on sections 3 and 4
Voter polls in favor of having a low hurdle (drop 25% or worse Yes Ratio) for July and dropping the bottom 1/3 of proposals in September (see spreadsheet next slide).
Consensus to remove all but sections 1, 3, and 4.
Voter straw poll of 26-0 in favor of adoption.
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

16. Tuesday Morning, 17 May 2005 (continued) 10:30-12:30
TGs July&September Down Select Combinations
July Downselect
September Downselect
Maximum Fraction Going into November V1 V2 V3 V4
1/4
1/2
0.375
1/3
0.500 3 MH
0.750 LH 7 4
0.667 17 18 20 23
1.000 5
none 8 6
LH = Low hurdle: drop if Yes Ratio less than 25%
MH = Medium hurdle: drop if Yes Ratio less than 33%
Fraction = drop that fraction from the bottom of the ordering by Yes Ratio
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17. Tuesday Morning, 17 May 2005 (continued) 10:30-12:30
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Tuesday Morning, 17 May 2005 (continued) 10:30-12:30
Technical Presentations and Discussion
“A distributed MAC algorithm for wireless mesh networks”, 11-05/392r2, Ray-Guang Cheng
Moved, to adopt 11-05/274r6
Moved: Juan Carlos Zuniga
Seconded: Steve Conner
Passed >75%: Vote
Recess until 13:30
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

18. Tuesday Afternoon, 17 May 2005 Meeting Room 3, 13:30 – 15:30
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Tuesday Afternoon, 17 May Meeting Room 3, 13:30 – 15:30
Manual attendance reminder
13:35 Slot A, Proposal Intent # 22, “A possible architecture for the Mesh Coordination Function”, 11-05/422r0
Straw poll, Yes: 24 No: 0
13:58 Slot B, Proposal Intent #15, “Mesh Formation and Higher Layer Interactions”, 11-05/384r0
Straw poll, Yes: 32 No: 0
14:21 Slot C, Proposal Intent #34, “Extensible Security and Routing Proposal”, 11-05/443r0
Straw poll, Yes: 29 No: 0
14:44 Slot D, Proposal Intent #17, “A high speed packet relay irrespective of hop counts”, 11-05/375r0
Straw poll, Yes: 19 No: 1
15:07 Slot E, Proposal Intent #32, “Proposal for ESS Mesh (ESS Mesh Security)”, s /0000
Straw poll, Yes: 33 No: 0
Adjourn until 08:00 Wednesday
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

19. Wednesday Morning, 18 May 2005 Meeting Room 2, 08:00 – 10:00
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Wednesday Morning, 18 May 2005 Meeting Room 2, 08:00 – 10:00
Manual attendance reminder
08:05 Slot F, Proposal Intent #35, “Proactive Mesh Networks (ProM)”, 11-05/386-01
Straw poll, Yes: 25 No: 0
08:28 Slot G, Proposal Intent #12, “Simple, Efficient, and Extensible Mesh”, 11-05/398r0
Straw poll, Yes: 26 No: 0
08:51 Slot H, Proposal Intent #18, “ TGs ESS Mesh Networking Proposal; Preliminary Overview of Secure NOmadic Wireless MESH (SNOWMESH)”, 11-05/395r1
Straw poll, Yes: 27 No: 0
09:14 Slot I, Proposal Intent #30, “Media Protection Enhancement to Improve Efficiency for Mesh”, 11-05/442r0
Straw poll, Yes: 20 No: 0
09:37 Slot J, Proposal Intent #1, “ST+UCLA TGs Mesh Network Proposal”, 11-05/379r0
Straw poll, Yes: 15 No: 0
Recess until 13:30
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20. Wednesday Afternoon, 18 May 2005 Meeting Room 2, 13:30 – 15:30
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Wednesday Afternoon, 18 May Meeting Room 2, 13:30 – 15:30
Manual attendance reminder
Technical Presentations and Discussion
DFS Regulatory Update, 11-05/397r0, Greg Chesson, Donald Eastlake
Multicast over WLAN, 11-05/420r1, Jesse Walker
Panels of Proposal Intenders who presented earlier this meeting
Starting not later than 14:30, see next slide
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21. Wednesday Afternoon, 18 May 2005 (continued) 13:30 – 15:30
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Wednesday Afternoon, 18 May (continued) 13:30 – 15:30
Starting not later than 14:30
First Panel of Proposal Intenders
#12, Simple, Efficient, and Extensible Mesh (SEEM)
#15, Mesh formation and higher layer interactions
#18, Secure NOmadic Wireless Mesh (SNOWMesh)
#22, A possible architecture for the Mesh Coordination Function
#35, Proactive Mesh Networks (ProM)
Second Panel of Proposal Intenders
#1, ST+UCLA TGs Mesh Network Proposal
#17, A high speed packet relay irrespective of hop counts
#30, Media Protection Enhancement to Improve Efficiency for Mesh
#32, Proposal for ESS Mesh (ESS Mesh Security)
#34, Extensible Security and Routing Proposal
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22. Wednesday Afternoon, 18 May 2005 (continued) 13:30 – 15:30
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Wednesday Afternoon, 18 May (continued) 13:30 – 15:30
Discussion and Motions on Teleconferences / ad hoc Meetings
“TGs Process”, Donald Eastlake, 11-05/366r1
Moved, that TGs hold teleconferences at 11:00 Eastern Time: Wednesday 1 June Thursday 16 June Wednesday 29 June Wednesday 13 July 2005 Notice will be given on the mailing list at least 10 days in advance.
Passed with 16:00 Eastern time, then amended to 11:00 Eastern Time by (>2/3).
Note that we currently have working group permission to hold an ad hoc meeting August 30th through September 1st in Portland, Oregon, to discuss proposals.
Recess until 16:00
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

23. Wednesday Afternoon, 18 May 2005 Meeting Room 2, 16:00 – 18:00
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Wednesday Afternoon, 18 May Meeting Room 2, 16:00 – 18:00
Manual attendance reminder
Presentations, Discussion, and Votes on Process
Lily Yang, Guido Hiertz, Juan Carlos Zuniga, 11-05/274r7
Decided to go with option #1
Decided to have one down select dropping the bottom 40% (but at least one) per meeting rather than two down selects dropping the bottom 25% (but at least one).
Decided to go with two nested loops, inner having two confirmation votes after both fail, pop back to the two highest ranked proposals. After three outer loops (6 total confirmation votes), TG must vote on motion to recommend that it be disolved.
11-05/274r8 part 4 adopted unanimously (see minutes for specific votes).
17:35: Adjourn until 10:30 Thursday.
NOTE: Although this session theoretically could last until 18:00, that’s when the buses start for the Social!
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24. Thursday Morning, 19 May 2005 Meeting Room 2, 10:30 – 11:30
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Thursday Morning, 19 May Meeting Room 2, 10:30 – 11:30
Joint meeting with TGu for the first hour of this slot
Discuss external entities and interfaces.
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

25. [Reference Information]
May 2005
[Reference Information]
PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2
Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1
Call for Proposals: 11-04/1430r12
Proposal Presentation Procedures, March/May: 11-04/1539r3
Proposal Selection Procedures: 11-05/274r8
Proposal Intents: 11-05/112r13
Adopted Task Group Working Documents as of 1/19/2005
11-04/1477r4: Terms and Definitions for s
11-04/1174r13: Functional Specification and Scope
11-04/1175r10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists
11-04/662r16: Usage Models
11-04/1543r4: Informative Reference Bibliography for s
Miscellaneous
Earlier Mesh Submissions to WNG Study Group, see 11-04/0047r0
Graphs and Mesh, see r0
“Free the APs” Button Graphics: 11-04/518r0
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26. [Earlier Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
May 2005
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[Earlier Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
March 2005 Meeting, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-05/261r0
January 2005 Meeting, Monterey, California, 11-05/45r0
November 2004 Meeting, San Antonio, Texas, 11-04/1464r0
September 2004 Meeting, Berlin, Germany, 11-04/1125r1
July 2004 Meeting, Portland, Oregon, 11-04/853r0
Recent Teleconference Minutes
20 April 2005, 11-05/341r1
23 February 2005, 11-05/125r1
MESH Study Group Meeting Minutes
May 2004 Meeting, Garden Grove, California, 11-04/652r1
March 2004 Meeting, Lake Buena Vista, Florida, 11-04/395r2
January 2004 Meeting, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-04/110r2
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