September 2007 Mesh Meeting Agenda

September 2007 Mesh Meeting Agenda
doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 September 2007 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: Authors: Name Address Affiliations Phone Donald Eastlake 3rd 111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
September 2007 doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Waikoloa (‘Anaeho‘omalu), Hawai‘i 17-20 September, 2007 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd., Motorola Technical Editor: Steve Conner, Intel Secretary: Stephen Rayment, BelAir Networks Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P802.11-07/2290r11 Waikoloa, Big Island, Hawai‘i
September 2007 doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Venue Waikoloa, Big Island, Hawai‘i Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

General Flow of the TGs Meeting
September 2007 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft Tuesday Wednesday Security Presentations Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Monday, 17 September 2007 10:30-12:30, King’s 2 Room
doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Monday, 17 September :30-12:30, King’s 2 Room Call meeting to Order Selection of Temporary Secretary for this session: Dee Denteneer Automated Attendance Recording Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Miscellaneous Announcements Agenda approved unanimously Minutes all approved unanimously: July 2007 Meeting Minutes, 11-07/2277r0 12-14 September (Kaua‘i) Ad Hoc Meeting, 11-07/2413r0 Teleconference Minutes, approved by unanimous consent 25 July 2007, 11-07/2281r0 8, 15, 22, 29 August 2007, 11-07/2300r0, 11-07/2325r0, 11-07/2337r0, 11-07/2356r0 5 September 2007, 11-07/2377r1 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

September 2007 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: Anti-Trust: IEEE Ethics: Letter of Assurance Form: IEEE Patent Committee: IEEE Patent Policy: Patent FAQ: Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Miscellaneous Announcements
September 2007 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

September 2007 doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Affiliation It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation. Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

September 2007 doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Affiliation Policy Requirement to declare affiliation at all standards development meetings and recorded in the minutes Affiliation not necessarily same as employer Declaration requirement may be familiar to some 802 WGs, though WG declaration process may evolve 11. What if I refuse to disclose my affiliation? As outlined in IEEE-SA governance documents, you will lose certain rights. In a working group where voting rights are gained through attendance, no attendance credit will be granted if affiliation isn’t declared. Similarly, voting rights are to be removed if affiliation isn’t declared. Affiliation declaration will be added to Sponsor ballot Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Automated Attendance Recording
September 2007 doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: or or just Create a profile Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “create a profile” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Monday, 17 September :30-12:30, King’s 2 Room Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot Draft D1.06, W. Steven Conner “Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, Donald Eastlake, 11-07/23r47 Presentation and Discussion on Process “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/2398r0 Announcement: Steve Conner will be unable to continue as Technical Editor after this meeting “Editorial fixes for TGs D1.06”, 11-07/2301r3, Donald Eastlake, Dee Denteneer, Tony Braskich, Michelle Gong “Probe Request Frame Cleanup”, 11-07/2445r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Monday, 17 September :30-12:30, King’s 2 Room “Beaconing Analysis in Mesh”, 11-07/2414r1, Jarkko Knecht Straw Poll, Are you in favor of deleting the designated beacon broadcaster from s specs? Yes: 17 No: 0 Abstain: 3 “Mesh Beacon and Legacy Beacon”, 11-07/2306r2, Kazuyuki Sakoda Straw Poll, Do you favor these cleanups to consistently separate the AP and MP Beacons? Yes: 20 No: 0 Abstain: 4 “MDA Fixes for TGs”, 11-07/2375r2, Dee Denteneer “Resolution of Guava Comments”, 11-07/2409r0, Guenael Strutt Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Monday, 17 September :00-18:00, King’s 2 Room Call meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, To adopt all resolutions of Open comments marked in 11-07/23r47 as Accept, Reject, or Counter and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Kazuyuki Sakoda Unanimous consent. Moved, To adopt the changes to Draft D1.06 in 11-07/2301r3 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Kazuyuki Sakoda Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Monday, 17 September :00-18:00, King’s 2 Room “Performance Evaluation of ‘Express Forwarding’ for a Single-Channel Mesh”, 11-07/2454r0, Mathilde Benveniste Straw Poll, How many people are in favor of including some version of Express Forwarding as an option in the Draft? Yes: 6 No: 10 Abstain: 13 Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Monday, 17 September :30-21:30, King’s 2 Room Call meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, to remove all the information elements except Mesh ID element from the probe request frame, as shown previously in the slide 8 of 11-07/2445r0 (Probe Request Frame Cleanup). Moved by: Kazayuki Sakoda Second by: Michelle Gong Adopted by unanimous consent. Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2409r0 (Resolution of Guava Comments) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Guenael Strutt Seconded: Michael Bahr Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Monday, 17 September :30-21:30, King’s 2 Room Moved, to adopt the Draft changes shown in 11-07/2306r2 (Mesh Beacon and Legacy Beacon) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved by: Kazayuki Sakoda Second by: Guenael Strutt Adopted by unanimous consent. “Forwarding at Intermediate and Destination Mesh Points (MP) using 6-Address Scheme”, 11-07/2439r0, Liwen Chu “An Overview to Regulatory Domains”, 11-07/2503r0, Guido Hiertz Recess until 10:30 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Tuesday, 18 September 2007 10:30-12:30, King’s 2 Room
doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Tuesday, 18 September :30-12:30, King’s 2 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2375r2 (MDA Fixes for TGs) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Steve Emeott Adopted by unanimous consent. “Suggested Resolution for Open Security Comments”, 11-07/2411r2, Meiyuan Zhao “WLAN Segregated Data Services”, 11-07/2491r1, Donald Eastlake Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Tuesday, 18 September :30-12:30, King’s 2 Room Straw poll on interest in subgroups for comment resolution General – 2, Security – 4, MAC – 8, RFI – 4 Divide into three subgroups for comment resolution: Security – Jesse Walker MAC – Michelle Gong RFI – Guenael Strutt Reconvene and Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Tuesday, 18 September :30-21:30, King’s 2 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Automated Attendance Recording Reminder “Beaconing analysis in mesh”, 11-07/2414r1, Jarkko Knecht “A simple & scalable traffic engineering solution for s”, 11-07/2534, Guido Hiertz “8 RFI comments”, 11-07/2517r0, Guenael Strutt “MDA Simulation Study: MDAOP Stretching and Other Concerns”, 11-07/2537r0, Steve Emeott Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Tuesday, 18 September :30-21:30, King’s 2 Room “Common TSF Issues”, 11-07/2518r1, Zhen Xie Straw Poll #1: Should “Synchronization Mode Identifier” be included in the draft to allow different synchronization modes? Yes: 7 No: 1 Abstain: 13 Straw Poll #2: Is there any interest to investigate in the direction of “Peer Link Synchronization Mode”? Yes: No: 1 Abstain: 7 Straw Poll #3: Should references to “common mesh TSF” be removed from the draft? Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 8 Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Wednesday, 19 September 2007 8:00-10:00, King’s 2 Room
doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Wednesday, 19 September :00-10:00, King’s 2 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Security Presentations “Updates on Abbreviated Handshake”, 11-07/2543r0, Meiyuan Zhao, (word: 11-07/1999r4) “Overview of an abbreviated handshake with sequential and simultaneous forms”, 11-07/2539r0, Tony Braskich Moved, to adopt document 11-07/1999r4 (Abbreviated Handshake for Authenticated Peer Link Establishment) and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes in the Draft. Moved: Meiyuan Zhao Seconded: Steve Conner Adopted by unanimous consent. “Mesh Group Key Delivery Updates”, 11-07/2362r2, Tony Braskich Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Wednesday, 19 September :00-10:00, King’s 2 Room Moved, to delete Designated Beacon Broadcaster and Connectivity Report mechanisms from the s standard Delete section Connectivity Report element Remove Table s25—Mesh Resource Coordination Action field values action field 9 Delete section Connectivity Report frame format Delete the lines from page 211 and lines 1-4 from page 212, section 11A Beaconing by synchronizing MPs Delete sections 11A , 11A and 11A Delete the lines from page 219, section 11A To resolve comments: , 57,58,67,68, 72, 76, 78, 79, 80, 81, 83, 85, 86, 87, 119, 177, 178, 475, 473, 474, 500, 767, 768, 770, 771, 908, 909, 911, 912, 916, 917, 918, 936, 937, 954, 1074, 1110, 1113, 1114, 1115, 1116, 1117, 1118, 1119, 1243, 1376, 1494, 1523, 1576, 1578, 1980, 2155, 2157, 2158, 2354, 2734, 3507, 3519, 3520, 3545, 3569, 3570, 3646, 3799, 3899, 3900, 3901, 3902, 3906, 4184, 4445, 4446, 4845, 4846, 5005, 5007, 5008, 5009, 5013, 5041, 5561, 5649, 5650, 5673 Moved: Jarkko Knecht Seconded: Steve Emeott Adopted by unanimous consent. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Wednesday, 19 September :00-10:00, King’s 2 Room Moved, to enter the comment resolutions in submission 11-07/2517r0 (8 RFI comments) into the TGs comment resolution spread sheet, Close those which are Accept, Counter, and Reject, and direct the Editor to incorporate those which are Accept or Counter into the Draft. Moved: Gunenael Strutt Seconded: Michale Bahr Adopted by unanimous consent. Moved, to adopt the changes in submission 11-07/2536r0 (MDA Channel Access and Retransmission Behavior Comment Resolution), resolving CIDs 1045, 1300, and 1538 and direct the Editor to enter them into the Draft. Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Steve Emeott Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in submission 11-07/2411r3 (Suggested Resolution for Open Security Comments), and direct the Editor to enter them into the Draft. Moved: Meiyuan Zhao Seconded: Tony Braskich Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Wednesday, 19 September :00-10:00, King’s 2 Room “End-to-end Aware Association in Mesh Network: Performance Study”, 11-07/2528r0r1, Hang Liu Straw Poll, Is there interest to investigate the inclusion in the TGs draft of an optional IE in the mesh AP beacon and probe response that provides the path cost information between the MAP and the portal so a STA can make better decision in association process? Yes: 4 No: 0 Abstain: 18 Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Wednesday, 19 September :30-15:30, King’s 2 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/2362r2 (Mesh Group Key Delivery Updates) as the resolution of CID 598 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Meiyuan Zhao Adopted by unanimous consent. “Proposed amendment to Table 7.8”, 11-07/2549r0, Guido Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Wednesday, 19 September :30-15:30, King’s 2 Room “Reconsidering RA-OLSR”, 11-07/2547r2, Jorjeta Jetcheva & Malik Audeh Moved, Instruct the Editor to make the following changes to TGs Draft P802.11s_D1.06: Remove Section 11A.9. Remove Sections – Remove Section Remove Section T.3. Remove Sections T.8 – T.10. Remove definitions of OLSR and RA-OLSR in Section 4. Update Table s4 by updating the Value field of row 3 to 1-254, and then removing row 2. Update Table s1 by removing “11A.9” from the Clause field on row 7. Moved: Jorjeta Jetcheva Seconded: Michelle Gong Yes: No: 1 Abstain: 10 “MPs that do not Forward”, 11-07/2555r0, Guenael Strutt “Simulation Evaluation on Peer Link Management Protocol”, 11-07/2553r0, Meiyuan Zhao Recess until 13:30 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:30-15:30, King’s 2 Room
doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Thursday, 20 September :30-15:30, King’s 2 Room Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance recording reminder Discussion and Votes re Process “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/2398r1 Straw Poll on when to hold teleconferences: 11am: 7 2pm: pm: 11 Against 11am: Against 2pm: 4 2pm: 7 5pm: 11 Moved, to authorize weekly teleconferences from October through November meetings, starting 10 October through 21 November, Wednesdays, except during the Atlanta meeting, at 5pm. Adopted by unanimous consent. Straw Polls on ad hoc locations/dates 23-25 Oct: Nov: 2 Moved, to request that working group authorize a TGs ad hoc meeting October in the Boston area to resolve comments. Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Peter Yee Yes: No: Abstain: 5 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:30-15:30, (cont.)
doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Thursday, 20 September :30-15:30, (cont.) Moved, to update the comment resolution spreadsheet to show that the following CIDs were Closed as Countered by the removal of RA-OLSR (11-07/2547r2, adopted yesterday): 514, 619, 5500, 5501, 5502, 5503, 5504, 5505, 5506, 5507, 5510, 5511, 5516. Moved: Malik Audeh Seconded: Steve Conner Adopted by unanimous consent. Moved, to adopt comment resolutions proposed in document 11-07/2411r5 (Suggested Resolution for Open Security Comments) to resolve comments CID 598, 735, 1403, 1607, 1057, 4764 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Meiyuan Zhao Seconded: Guenael Strutt Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Thursday, 20 September :30-15:30, (cont.) Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/2556r1 (Non-forwarding terminal parasitic selfish MP) and direct the Editor to include them in the Draft. Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Kevin Hayes Adopted by unanimous consent. Moved, to adopt the 11-07/2585r0 (Mesh Forwarding via Root MPs) and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Liwen Chu Seconder: Jorjeta Jetcheva Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Thursday, 20 September :30-15:30, (cont.) “Fix Inconsistency in PLM Specification”, 11-07/2577r0, Meiyuan Zhao Moved, to remove the sentence at line 56 on page 103 of Draft 1.06 to fix the inconsistency in the PLM specification. Moved: Meiyuan Zhao Seconded: Hide Suzuki Adopted by unanimous consent. “Relationship between peer link and physical link”, 11-07/2572r0, Michael Bahr (word: 11-07/2569r0) “Resolution of Some APSD-related Comments”, 11-07/2573r0, Michelle Gong Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2573r1 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Moved: Michelle Gong Seconded: Kazuyuki Sakoda Adopted by unanimous. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 Thursday, 20 September :30-15:30, (cont.) Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before this motion. Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Michelle Gong Adopted by unanimous consent. Straw Poll, When will we go to Letter Ballot again? From November Meeting: January Meeting or later: 9 “Broadcast MDA”, 11-07/2575r0, Alexander Safonov Straw Poll: Are you in favour to enable multicast/broadcast MDA? Yes: 7 No: 0 Abstain: 14 Straw Poll: Should the normative text on MDA Extension for Broadcast/Multicast Transmission be prepared? Yes: 6 No: 0 Abstain: 14 Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Reference Information]
September 2007 doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 [Reference Information] Updated version at Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D1.06: 11-07/23r48: Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93 Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D0.01 was based: 11-06/328r0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs 11-06/329r3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs Overview Adopted Task Group Working Documents (other than Drafts) 11-04/1477r4: Terms and Definitions for s 11-04/1174r13: Functional Specification and Scope 11-04/1175r10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists 11-04/662r16: Usage Models 11-04/1543r4: Informative Reference Bibliography for s Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
September 2007 doc.: IEEE P /2290r11 September 2007 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0 June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0 May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0 April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1 March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0 February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0 January 2007, London, England, 11-07/92r0 November 2006, Dallas, Texas, 11-06/1788r0 November 2006 ad hoc, Munich, Germany, 11-06/1652r1 September 2006, Melbourne, Australia, 11-06/1565r0 July 2006 San Diego, California, 11-06/1007r0 June 2006 Ad Hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-06/849r0 Recent Teleconference Minutes 23, 30 May 2007, 11-07/1961r0, 11-07/1966r0 20, 27 June 2007, 11-07/2015r0, 11-07/2042r0 11 July 2007, 11-07/2141r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

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