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September 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 September 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: Authors: Name Address Affiliation Phone Donald Eastlake 3rd 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA USA Stellar Switches Guido R. Hiertz Riedel Communications GmbH & Co. KG, Uellendahler Straße 353, Wuppertal, Federal Republic of Germany Philips Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Waikoloa, Hawai‘i 21-24 September, 2009 Temporary Chair: Guido R. Hiertz (Riedel Communications) Temporary Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/913r7 Hilton Waikoloa, Anaeho‘omalu, Hawai‘i
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Venue Hilton Waikoloa, Anaeho‘omalu, Hawai‘i Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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General Flow of the TGs Meeting
September 2009 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Administrivia and Status TGs Process Presentation Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Tuesday Wednesday Security Presentations Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz
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Monday, 21 September 2009 10:30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Monday, 21 September :30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order Selection of Secretary Miscellaneous Announcements Automated attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Meeting Agenda Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Miscellaneous Announcements
September 2009 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz
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September 2009 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: Anti-Trust: IEEE Ethics: Letter of Assurance Form: IEEE Patent Committee: IEEE Patent Policy: Patent FAQ: Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Patent Related Links September 2009 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Automated Attendance Recording
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: or or just Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Monday, 21 September 2009 10:30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Monday, 21 September :30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Approval of Minutes: San Francisco meeting minutes: 11-09/902r0 Approved unanimously Teleconference minutes: : 11-09/916r0 : 11-09/970r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Monday, 21 September 2009 10:30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Monday, 21 September :30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Status of TGs Draft 3.03 and Comment Resolutions “Draft D3.03 status report”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-09/914r0 Presented by Guido R. Hiertz “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 147”, 11-09/471r13 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Monday, 21 September 2009 10:30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Monday, 21 September :30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Presentations “MAC beaconing synch comment resolution”, Kazayuki Sakoda (Sony), 11-09/885r1, 11-09/886r1 Presented by Guido R. Hiertz “General frame format comment resolution”, Kazayuki Sakoda, 11-09/968r0, 11-09/969r0 “General architecture and definition comment resolution”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-09/977r0, 11-09/978r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Monday, 21 September 2009 10:30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Monday, 21 September :30–12:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Subgroup interest poll: General: MAC: RFI: Security: 2 The chair suggested dividing into MAC and Security subgroups. Break into subgroups MAC subgroup coordinated by Jarkko Kneckt Security subgroup coordinated by Meiyuan Zhao Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Pending Presentations
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Pending Presentations 11-09/1017, “Mesh Peering Protocol Interaction and Text Re-org”, Meiyuan Zhao (Wednesday AM1) 11-09/1025, “Update Group Key Handshake Protocol”, Meiyuan Zhao 11-09/1026, “Update Peering Management to Support QoS”, Meiyuan Zhao “MCCA related comments”, Dee Denteneer (Philips) Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Monday, 21 September 2009 13:30–15:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Monday, 21 September :30–15:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Subgroup interest poll: General: MAC: RFI: Security: 1 The chair suggested dividing into MAC subgroup. Break into subgroups MAC subgroup coordinated by Jarkko Kneckt Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Monday, 21 September 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Monday, 21 September :30 – 21:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Break into subgroups MAC subgroup coordinated by Jarkko Kneckt Recess until 08:00 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Tuesday, 22 September 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Tuesday, 22 September :00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Notice The schedule for this week approved by the WG is In contrast to , it does not contain the PM1 session for s today. Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in submission 11-09/885r1 with Column X equal to “x”. Mover: Youko Omori Seconder: Craig Warren Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 0 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Tuesday, 22 September 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Tuesday, 22 September :00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in submission 11-09/968r0 with Column X equal to “x”. Mover: Youko Omori Seconder: Rene Purnadi Yes: No:0 Abstain:0 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Tuesday, 22 September 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Tuesday, 22 September :00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in submission 11-09/977r0 with Column X equal to “x”. Mover: Youko Omori Seconder: Rene Purnadi Yes: 5 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Tuesday, 22 September 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Tuesday, 22 September :00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Moved, to adopted the comment resolutions in 11-09/471r13 with Column X equal to “RFI-WED” and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. Mover: Craig Warren Seconder: Youko Omori Yes: 4 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Tuesday, 22 September 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Tuesday, 22 September :00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Presentations “Security Comments Resolutions from Security Subgroup”, Meiyuan Zhao, 11-09/1018r0 “Categorizing Mesh Action Frames Text”, Meiyuan Zhao, 11-09/0962r0 & 11-09/0961r0 “Mesh Formation Info”, Jarkko Kneckt, 11-09/0834r2 Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Subgroup interest poll: General: MAC: RFI: Security: 1 The chair suggested dividing into MAC subgroup. Break into subgroups MAC subgroup coordinated by Jarkko Kneckt Recess until 19:30 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Tuesday, 22 September 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Tuesday, 22 September :30 – 21:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Wednesday, 23 September 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Wednesday, 23 September :00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Security Presentations “More SAE Comment Resolution”, Dan Harkins, 11-09/0975r0 & 11-09/1012r0 “Protection of APE Messages”, Dan Harkins, 11-09/0966r0 & 11-09/1008r0 “Mesh Peering Protocol Interaction and Text Re-org”, Meiyuan Zhao, 11-09/1017r0 Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 13:30 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Wednesday, 23 September 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Wednesday, 23 September :30 – 15:30 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Wednesday, 23 September 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Wednesday, 23 September :00 – 18:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 08:00 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Thursday, 24 September 2008 08:00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Thursday, 24 September :00 – 10:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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Thursday, 24 September 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Queen's 4 Room)
doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 Thursday, 24 September :00 – 18:00 (Queen's 4 Room) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences “TGs Process, September”, 11-09/971r0 Motion: To direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
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[Reference Information]
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: 11-09/471r13: Resolution of Letter Ballot #147 Comments TGs Technical Editors: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03…D3.0… Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02 Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09…D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01…D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
![[Reference Information]](http://slideplayer.com./slide/16735294/97/images/31/%5BReference+Information%5D.jpg "September doc.: IEEE P /913r7. September [Reference Information] Updated PAR at Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: 11-09/471r13: Resolution of Letter Ballot #147 Comments. TGs Technical Editors: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03…D3.0… Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02. Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09…D2.0. W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01…D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches.")
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
September 2009 doc.: IEEE P /913r7 September 2009 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0 May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0 March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0 January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0 November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0 September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 May 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 Recent Teleconference Minutes May 27, 11-09/665r0, June 24, 11-09/701r0, July 8, 11-09/737r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
![[Earlier Meeting Minutes]](http://slideplayer.com./slide/16735294/97/images/32/%5BEarlier+Meeting+Minutes%5D.jpg "September doc.: IEEE P /913r7. September [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group s Meeting Minutes. July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0. May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0. March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0. January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0. November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0. September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0. September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0. July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0. May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2. May 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0. March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0. Recent Teleconference Minutes. May 27, 11-09/665r0, June 24, 11-09/701r0, July 8, 11-09/737r0. Donald Eastlake 3rd & Guido R. Hiertz. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches.")
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