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PAD Study Group Agenda Date: 2012-11-14 Authors: November 2012
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 PAD Study Group Agenda Date: Authors: Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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November 2012 doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Abstract Agenda for the Pre-Association Discovery Study Group meeting for November 2012, San Antonion, Texas, USA Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Tuesday 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 Room: Republic A, 4th level
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Tuesday 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 Room: Republic A, 4th level Call Meeting to Order Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Instructions for the WG Chair
November 2012 doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which November be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There November be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that November be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. Stephen McCann, RIM Clint Chaplin, Chair (Samsung)
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
November 2012 doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder November have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Stephen McCann, RIM Clint Chaplin, Chair (Samsung)
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Patent Related Links November 2012
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Stephen McCann, RIM Clint Chaplin, Chair (Samsung)
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
November 2012 doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches November be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Stephen McCann, RIM Clint Chaplin, Chair (Samsung)
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Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation
November 2012 doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Resources – URLs Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines Link to IEEE Code of Ethics Link to IEEE Patent Policy Stephen McCann, RIM Clint Chaplin, Chair (Samsung)
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IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional technical organization
November 2012 doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Meeting Etiquette IEEE 802 is a world-wide professional technical organization Meetings are to be conducted in an orderly and professional manner in accordance with the policies and procedures governed by the organization. Individuals are to address the “Technical” content of the subject under consideration and refrain from making “personal” comments to or about the presenter. The Copyright Act of 1976 made a dramatic change to U.S. copyright law. Copyright was now deemed to exist from the moment of creation. Thus anything that is created is deemed to be owned by its creator. Additionally, a work no longer needs to be published in order to be protected. Therefore, even your scribbles on a piece of note paper constitute copyrighted material that you own and control. The NII (National Information Infrastructure) and the GII (Global Information Infrastructure) are causing lawmakers and copyright owners to assess the ability of current copyright law to protect owners rights in a digital environment. While at this point the changes being talked about are not significant, they will make it clear that copyright protection is afforded to owners in the digital environment making it a requirement to honor the rights accorded to owners. It is a requirement under the IEEE Bylaws that copyright ownership of all material published by the IEEE resides with the IEEE. The Standards Department accomplishes the transfer of copyright ownership from the volunteer authors to the Institute via the Project Authorization Request (PAR) form. Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 Attendance Documentation Approve Agenda r1 (this document) Approval of September 2012 minutes r0 (thanks to Dwight Smith) Re-present closing report from September 2012 r0 Review Requirements Document r6 Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 17:00 Report on IEEE 802 WG comments from Jon Rosdahl PAR comment from NesCom (see next slide) SG Extension Motion (see last slide) Presentation r0 (Dwight) Liaison to Wi-Fi Alliance Liaise PAR to Wi-Fi Alliance for information. Dependent upon the PAR being approved by the EC this week. Which groups within Wi-Fi Alliance. What can PAD do with any comments? Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 NesCom Comment for P802.11aq Peter Balma on 1 Nov 2012 at 08:15 wrote: > Please provide the titles for the standards referenced in 5.5, or as an alternative provide them as a note in 8.1. Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 Response: Agreed. Please add the following changes to the PAR in section 8.1: References for technologies within section 5.5 are: uPnP - "Universal Plug and Play" < Bonjour - this is an open protocol for zero-configuration networking over IP that Apple has submitted to the IETF as part of a proposed working group "mdnsext" Thank you. Kind Regards Stephen McCann Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Tuesday (cont’) 13 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 NesCom Comment #2 for P802.11aq Peter Balma on 12 Nov 2012 at 07:43 wrote: > Stephen thanks for your response. The addition of definitions for these acronyms/terms is helpful and pehaps we should add definitions for ANQP and GAS also. Sorry for the mis-communication here, but my original concern was actually for defining 802.1D, and 802.1Q. With the number of admendments in the 802 series it is easy to lose track of the specific material referenced. Would you please consider adding the two additional acronyms and the title for the admendments to 8.1 also. Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Tuesday 13 November 2012, 19:30 – 21:30 Room: Republic A, 4th level
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Tuesday 13 November 2012, 19:30 – 21:30 Room: Republic A, 4th level Approve Draft PAR & 5Cs r5 (PAR) r5 (5C) Comments from IEEE 802 Working Groups Presentations xxx Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Wednesday 14 November 2012, 08:00 – 10:00
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Wednesday 14 November 2012, 08:00 – 10:00 Room: Presidio C, 3rd level Approve Draft PAR & 5Cs Updates r5 (PAR) r5 (5C) Responses to IEEE r0 Chair report required PAR changes on myProject tool Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Thursday 15 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 Room: Presidio C, 3rd level
doc.: IEEE /1287r1 November 2012 Thursday 15 November 2012, 16:00 – 18:00 Room: Presidio C, 3rd level Liaison to Wi-Fi Alliance liaison-to-WFA-regarding-11aq-PAR.docx Presentations r0 - Pre-association Service Discovery Use Cases Teleconferences Preparation for January 2013 Plenary Room/Slot Allocation – 3 slots AOB Adjourn Stephen McCann, RIM Stephen McCann, RIM
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Study Group Extension Motion
January 2012 doc.: IEEE /0757r6 November 2012 Study Group Extension Motion Request the IEEE 802 LMSC to extend the IEEE PAD Study Group. Note: this is to allow further work to finalise PAR and 5 Criteria documentation, in case the PAR is not approved by NesCom. Moved: Michael Montemurro Second: Stuart Kerry Result: 37/0/0 Stephen McCann, RIM Michael Montemurro, RIM
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January 2012 doc.: IEEE /0004r5 November 2012 Motion Request the IEEE WG chair to liaise document “ liaison-to-wfa-regarding-11aq-PAR.doc” to the Wi-Fi Alliance, subject to approval by NesCom of the IEEE aq PAR. Moved: Stuart Kerry Second: Dwight Smith Result: 30/0/0 Stephen McCann, RIM Michael Montemurro, RIM
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January 2012 doc.: IEEE /0004r5 November 2012 Motion Approve the response document to comments received from IEEE regarding the IEEE aq PAR and 5Cs contained in document “ pad-response-to comments-on-PAR-and-5Cs.ppt” Moved: Stuart Kerry Second: Joe Levy Result: 22/0/0 Stephen McCann, RIM Michael Montemurro, RIM
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January 2012 doc.: IEEE /0996r3 November 2012 PAR Motion Believing that the PAR content contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE-SA guidelines, request that the PAR content contained in /1081r6 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for WG 802 preview and EC approval to submit to NesCom. Moved: Dwight Smith Second: Stuart Kerry Result: 31/0/0 Stephen McCann, RIM Michael Montemurro, RIM
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January 2012 doc.: IEEE /0996r3 November 2012 5C Motion Believing that the Five Criteria contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE 802 guidelines, request that the Five Criteria contained in /1137r6 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for WG 802 preview and EC approval. Moved: Dwight Smith Second: Michael Montemurro Result: 33/0/0 Stephen McCann, RIM Michael Montemurro, RIM
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