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TGac July 2012 Agenda Date: 2012-07-13 Authors: July 2012 May 2012
doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 TGac July 2012 Agenda Date: Authors: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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IEEE 802.11ac: VHT < 6 GHz Task Group
July 2012 IEEE ac: VHT < 6 GHz Task Group San Diego, CA July 15-20, 2012 Chair: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Vice Chair: Menzo Wentink (Qualcomm) Vice Chair: Joonsuk Kim (Broadcom) Technical Editor: Robert Stacey (Apple) Secretary: David Yang (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 3 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Register Indicate attendance Attendance
July 2012 Attendance Register Indicate attendance See document r0 for more details Slide 4 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status
July 2012 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 5 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Patent Policy Following 5 slides July 2012 May 2012
doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Patent Policy Following 5 slides Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Instructions for the WG Chair
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. (Optional to be shown) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Patent Related Links Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda Items for the Week
July 2012 Agenda Items for the Week Approve minutes from May meeting. Approve Telecon minutes. Status Report and Review from May July Ad Hoc meetings. Continue comment resolution on draft D3.0. Discuss and approve TGac PAR extension. Discuss proposal to remove PMD from TGac Ad Hoc group meetings, TG motions Schedule Telecon times and ad hoc meeting. Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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General Flow of the Meeting
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 General Flow of the Meeting Monday July 16th, 09:00 – 11:00 IEEE IPR and Patent Policy Ad Hoc Meeting Comment Resolution Monday July 16th, 16:00 – 18:00 Approve of May meeting minutes, July ad hoc meeting minutes, and telecons minutes. Editor Report. PAR Extension PMD Discussion TG Motions Tuesday July 17th 08:00 – 10:00 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Presentations, straw polls, and pre-motions Tuesday July 17th 10:30 – 12:30 Presentations, straw Polls, and Pre-Motions Tuesday July 17th 16:00 – 18:00 TG Meeting Wednesday July 18th, 16:00 – 18:00 Ad Hoc Group Meetings Presentations, straw polls, and pre-motions. Thursday July 19th, 10:30 – 12:30 Thursday July 19th, 16:00 – 18:00 TG Meeting Ad Hoc group reports and straw polls TG Motions Presentations Goals for September 2012 Ad Hoc meeting and Conference calls Adjourn Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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TGac Schedule in a Glance
July 2012 TGac Schedule in a Glance Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday AM1 TGac (Ad-Hoc) MAC AM2 PHY MU PM1 PM2 TGac COEX/MAC Evening Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Submissions (from July Ad Hoc)
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Submissions (from July Ad Hoc) 11-12/0782r0, “LB188 Stephens General comment resolutions” Adrian Stephens 11-12/0783, “LB188 Stephens Clause 8 Comment Resolutions” Adrian Stephens 11-12/0801, “D3_Comment_Resolution_brianh_part1” Brian Hart 11-12/0802, “LB188 operating mode comment resolution” Robert Stacey 11-12/0807, “LB188 Annex B Comment Resolution”, Osama Aboul-Magd 11-12/0808, “LB188 Clause Comment Resolution Osama Aboul-Magd 11-12/810, LB188 Misc PHY Comments, Youhan Kim 11-12/811, Subclause comment resolution for LB188, Yusuki Asai 11-12/812, Subclause comment resolution for LB188, Yusuki Asai 11-12/0836, “LB188 Clause 8 Comment Resolutions Nihar Jindal Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Submissions July 2012 11-12/0711, “gcm-256-and-suite-b” Dan Harkins
11-12/813, “LB188, COEX CIDs in Sub-clause 9.3”, Reza Hedayat 11-12/814, “LB188, PHY CIDs, Sub-clause ”, Reza Hedayat 11-12/847, “LB188 Proposed MAC Comment Resolutions” Adrian Stephens 11-12/0853, “LB188 Subclause Comment Resolution” Liwen Chu 11-12/0855, “LB188 Subclause Comment Resolution”, Liwen Chu 11-12/0856, “LB188 Subclause Comment Resolution” Liwen Chu 11-12/0864, “LB188 Clause Comment Resolutions », Yongho Seok 11-12/0875, LB188 Subclause Comment Resolution, Simone Merlin 11-12/0888, “D3_comment_resolution_brianh_part2” Brian Hart 11-12/903, “Next-Gen Security Built on 11ac” Brian Hart 11-12/0915, “LB188 MAC comment resolutions”, Sandhya Nihar 11-12/917, “LB188 - CID 6855”, Simone Merlin 11-12/946r1, “Next generation security” Andrew Myles 11-12/952, “D3_comment_resolution_brianh_part4” Brian Hart 11-12/965, “LB188 Miscellaneous Comment Resolution” Osama Aboul-Magd 11-12/944, “Turbo-equalization for n/ac”, Laurent Cariou (Orange) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Monday, July 16th, 09:00 – 11:00
TG Ad Hoc Meeting Patent policy, etc. Comment Resolution Adjourn Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Presentations 11-12/0888, “D3_comment_resolution_brianh_part2” Brian Hart 11-12/0875, LB188 Subclause Comment Resolution, Simone Merlin. 11-12/814, “LB188, PHY CIDs, Sub-clause ”, Reza Hedayat Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll Do you agree to the resolutions of CIDs, 6713, 6743, 6744, 6266, 6802, 6764, 6765, 6766, 6777, 6300, 6778, 6060, 6062 in doc 11-12/0888r1? No objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll Do you agree with resolutions of CIDs, 6236, 6237, 6410, 6794, and 6849 in doc 11-12/0875r0? No objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll Do you agree to resolutions of CIDs, 6564, 6565, 6566, 6567, 6568, 6569, 6570, 6571, 6572, 6641, 6816 in doc 11-12/0814r1? No objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Monday, July 16th, 16:00 – 18:00
TG Meeting Patent policy, etc. Call for submissions Set agenda and Ad Hoc groups schedule. Status Report. TG motions Approve minutes from the May meeting, July ad hoc meeting (July 11-12), and Telecon (June 28, 2012) PAR Extension Discussion PMD Discussion Recess Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Status report The agenda for the July ad hoc meeting is available at: 10 submissions were covered. Close to 130 CIDs are resolved. Comment Spread sheet is available at: Editor Report: Robert Stacey Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Approval of Minutes (May 2012 Meeting, July ad hoc Meeting, and Telecon Minutes) Move to approve Move: Joonsuk Kim Second: Robert Stacey Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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TGac PAR Extension Discussion
July 2012 TGac PAR Extension Discussion All 11-12/0900r0, TGac PAT Extensions Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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PMD Deletion for TGac All, led by Eldad. July 2012
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July 2012 Straw Poll Do you agree to resolutions to CIDs, 6422, 6735, 6736, 6522, 6221 in doc 11-12/0782r3? No objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll Do you agree with resolutions to CIDs, 6231 in doc 11-12/783r3? No objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll Do you agree to resolutions to CIDs 6813 and 6814 in doc 11-12/0875r1? No objection. Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll Do you agree to the resolution of CID 6137 in doc 11-12/0807r2? No objection. Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday July 17th, 08:00 – 10:00
Ad Hoc Meetings MAC Ad Hoc: Elizabeth A Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday July 17th, 10:30 – 12:30
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda for Tuesday July 17th, 10:30 – 12:30 Ad Hoc Group Meetings PHY Ad Hoc: Elizabeth A Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Tuesday, July 17th, 16:00 – 18:00
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda for Tuesday, July 17th, 16:00 – 18:00 Task Group Meeting Call Meeting to order IEEE 802 IPR Policies and procedures Call for Secretary Comment Resolution Motions PAR Extension Motion Comment Resolution Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #31- General
July 2012 Comment Resolution Motion #31- General Move to approve resolutions of comments: GEN Move/Second: Eldad/Robert Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #32- MAC
July 2012 Comment Resolution Motion #32- MAC Move to approve resolutions of comments: MAC MAC Move/Second: Eldad/Robert Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #33: MU
July 2012 Comment Resolution Motion #33: MU Move to approve resolutions of comments: MU Move/Second: Eldad/Robert Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution #34: COEX
July 2012 Comment Resolution #34: COEX Move to approve resolutions of comments: COEX Move/Second: Eldad/Yusuke Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #35: PHY
July 2012 Comment Resolution Motion #35: PHY Move to approve resolutions of comments: _f2f_SP_Passed _f2f_SP_Passed Move/Second: Eldad/Youhan Accepted with no objction Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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TGac PAR Extension Motion
July 2012 TGac PAR Extension Motion Believing that the PAR contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE-SA guidelines, Request that the PAR contained in be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for WG 802 preview and EC approval to submit to NesCom. Moved by on behalf of <group> TGac vote: Moved: Eldad Perahia, Seconded: Youhan Kim, Result: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll Do you accept resolutions to CIDs 6530, 6169, 6385, 6531, 6532 and 6533 in doc 11-12/0836r2? No objection Do you agree with the revised resolutions to CID 6535? Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Motion Motion to reconsider Comment Resolution Motion #33
July 2012 Motion Motion to reconsider Comment Resolution Motion #33 Move/Second: Brian/Adrian No objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #33:MU
July 2012 Comment Resolution Motion #33:MU Move to approve resolutions of comments: MU , except 6535 Move/Second: Adrian/Youhan Accepted with no objection. Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Wednesday, July18th, 16:00 – 18:00
Ad Hoc Group Meetings Ad Hoc 1: Ad Hoc 2: Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Agenda for Thursday, July 19th, 16:00 – 18:00
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Agenda for Thursday, July 19th, 16:00 – 18:00 TG Meeting IEEE 802 and IPR Policies and Procedures TG Motions Ad Hoc Meeting(s) Conference calls Goals for September 2012 Presentations 11-12/0944, “Turbo-equalization for n/ac”, Laurent Cariou (Orange) Adjourn Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #34: MU
July 2012 Comment Resolution Motion #34: MU Move to approve resolutions of comments: MU MU MU Move/Second: Eldad/Joonsuk Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #35: MAC
July 2012 Comment Resolution Motion #35: MAC Move to approve resolutions of comments: MAC MAC MAC Move/Second: Allan/Joonsuk Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Comment Resolution Motion #36: COEX
July 2012 Comment Resolution Motion #36: COEX Move to approve resolutions of comments: COEX Move/Second: Yusuke/Joonsuk Accepted with no objection Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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September Ad Hoc Meeting
July 2012 September Ad Hoc Meeting September Ad Hoc meeting in San Diego, September Broadcom offered to host the meeting in San Diego Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll What location do you prefer for the September ad hoc meeting? San Diego 17 Bay Area 8 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Motion for Ad Hoc Meeting
July 2012 Motion for Ad Hoc Meeting Authorize TGac to hold an ad-hoc meeting on November 8-9 in the Bay Area, for the purpose of working on comment resolution. Moved by Osama Aboul-Magd on behalf of TGac TGac vote: Moved: Eldad, Seconded: Brian, Result: ] Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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July 2012 Straw Poll Regardless of the arrangement, would you prefer the Bay Area or San Antonio? Bay Area: 22 San Antonio: 2 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Conference call times August 16, August 30, Sept 13, Oct. 4
May 2012 doc.: IEEE /xxxxr0 July 2012 Conference call times Not to overlap with TGad Aug 16, Aug 30, Sept 13, Oct 4 10:00 – 12:00 ET Aug 23, Sept 6, Sept 27, Oct 11 20:00-22:00 ET Previously Approved 10:00 – 12:00 July 26 20:00 – 22:00 August 2 August 16, August 30, Sept 13, Oct. 4 20:00 – 22:00 ET August 9, August 23, Sept 6, Sept 27, Oct 11 Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies) Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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Goals for Sept 2012 Complete comment resolution on draft D3.0.
July 2012 Goals for Sept 2012 Complete comment resolution on draft D3.0. Generate draft D4.0 and start a new recirculation ballot. Osama Aboul-Magd (Huawei Technologies)
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