1. May 2010 Mesh Meeting Agenda
January 2010
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May 2010
May 2010 Mesh Meeting Agenda
Date:
Authors:
Name
Address
Affiliation
Phone
Dee Denteneer
HTC 37; 5656 AE Eindhoven; The Netherlands
Philips
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

2. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
January 2010
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March 2010
IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Beijing, Cn
May 17-20, 2010
Chair: Dee Denteneer (Philips)
Vice Chair: Guido Hiertz (Philips)
Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony)
Secretary: Guenael Strutt (Motorola)
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

3. General Flow of the TGs Meeting
March 2010
General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday
Administrivia
Assignments of comments
Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft
Tuesday
AM1: leadership elections
PAR extension
timeline
Wednesday
Thursday
TGs Process Discussion
Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
Dee Denteneer; Philips

4. Miscellaneous Announcements
March 2010
Miscellaneous Announcements
Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended!
The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff.
Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area!
Individual membership
In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization.
Photographs and Recordings
No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings.
No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission.
Media – Press and Analyst briefings
Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group.
Dee Denteneer; Philips

5. March 2010
Important Stuff
Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda.
Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions:
Anti-Trust:
IEEE Ethics:
Letter of Assurance Form:
IEEE Patent Committee:
IEEE Patent Policy:
Patent FAQ:
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6. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
January 2010
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March 2010
Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:
“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged
No duty to perform a patent search
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

7. Patent Related Links
March 2010
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.
Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
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8. Call for Potentially Essential Patents
January 2010
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March 2010
Call for Potentially Essential Patents
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
Either speak up now or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
Cause an LOA to be submitted
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

9. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
January 2010
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March 2010
Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

10. Automated Attendance Recording
January 2010
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March 2010
Automated Attendance Recording
Go to (Documents: or or just
Sign-in
Claim attendance credit for each session.
Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others.
You have to log in every session!
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

11. Monday, 17 May 2010 14:30-18:00 Secretary selection
January 2010
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March 2010
Monday, 17 May :30-18:00
Secretary selection
Call Meeting to Order
Miscellaneous Announcements
Automated attendance reminder
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Meeting Agenda
Get on 1 page
Status update
Assignments
All comments are equal but some are more equal than others
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

12. January 2010
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March 2010
Monday, 17 May :30-18:00
Moved, to include the “late comments” contributed to LB161 identified by CIDs as regular comments in the TG s comments resolution process
Moved: Seconded:
By unanimous consent
RenePurndai prsented 546r0, Emergency services
Ashish: Shukla presented 547,r0 cs-resolutions
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

13. March 2010
Monday, 17 May :30-18:00
Kazuyuki Sakoda presented: 538r0, General frame format
Do you think this is a reasonable idea (concerns: response to Probe Request)
Y: 9; N; 0; A: 0
Do you think this is a reasonable idea (concerns: reorganization of Action Frame Categories)
Y: 7; N; 0; A: 2
Which option do you prefer (on multi hop action)
Op1: 5/Op2/: 0; Op3/ 4 Other: 0
Dan: Harkins prsented 522r1 SAE comments
Dee Denteneer; Philips

14. January 2010
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March 2010
Monday, 17 May :30-18:00
All comments are equal, but some are more equal than others
19 no votes: 7 with comments; 12 without comments
Comments part of no votes: see column “H”
General: 23 (G-edit: 8, G-frame: 9)
MAC: 34 (M-MCCA: 13; M-BS: 9; M-PM: 5)
RFI: 4 (R-HWMP: 2, R-LM: 2)
Security: 11 (S-General 5; S-SAE: 4)
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

15. General March 2010 General total closed open assignee resolved
remaining
G-Base 3 1 2
G-Def 4
G-Discovery
G-Editor 57
Kazuyuki
G-Frame 16 12
G-General 8 5
G-Architecture
G-Emergency 15
Rene 11
G-MIB
G-PICS
108 86 22
Dee Denteneer; Philips

16. MAC March 2010 MAC total closed Open Assignee Resolved Remaining M-BS27
Kazuyuki 14 13
M-CC 2
Guido
M-CS 4
Ashish
M-General
M-MCCA
107
Guido/Dee 58 49
M-PM 9
Jarkko
M-QoS
M-11n 3
Liwen
161 81 80
Dee Denteneer; Philips

17. RFI March 2010 RFI total closed Open Assignee Resolved Remaining R-LM1
R-Frame
R-FWD 10 8
R-General
R-HWMP 75 39 36
R-MeshGate 13 3
R-Proxy 6
R-PU 5
114 50 64
Dee Denteneer; Philips

18. Security March 2010 Security total closed Open Assignee Resolved
Remaining
S-General 7
Dan
S-Editorial 3
S-Frame 1
S-E2E
S-PLM 6
S-SAE 21 12 9 38 26
Dee Denteneer; Philips

19. Monday, 17 May 2010 19:30-21:30 Call Meeting to Order
January 2010
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March 2010
Monday, 17 May :30-21:30
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft
Recess until Tuesday 8:00
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

20. Tuesday, 18 May 2010 8:00-10:00 Call Meeting to Order
January 2010
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March 2010
Tuesday, 18 May :00-10:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Time line discussion and Professional Editing
PAR extension: discussion of 597r0.
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

21. January 2010
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March 2010
Tuesday, 18 May :00-10:00 (TBD)
Moved, to re-affirm or elect the following Officers and to adopt the recommendation below for TGs Chair and vice Chair:
Secretary, Guenael Strutt (Motorola)
Technical Editor, re-affirm: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony)
TGs vice-Chair, Recommendation to WG: Guido Hiertz (Philips)
TGs Chair, Recommendation to WG: Dee Denteneer (Philips)
By unanimous consent
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

22. Tuesday, 18 May 2010 8:00-10:00 (TBD) Approval of Minutes:
January 2010
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March 2010
Tuesday, 18 May :00-10:00 (TBD)
Approval of Minutes:
Orlando meeting minutes: 11-10/381r1
By unanimous consent
Teleconference minutes:
April 28, 2010: 11-10/488r0; May 6, 2010: 11-10/504r0
May 13, 2010: 11-10/535r0
Presentations
Jarkko Kneck presented 508r1, power management
Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft
Recess until Tuesday AM2
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

23. Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:30-12:30 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order
January 2010
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March 2010
Tuesday, 18 May :30-12:30 (TBD)
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft
Recess until Tuesday PM2
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

24. Tuesday, 18 May 2010 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order
January 2010
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March 2010
Tuesday, 18 May :00-18:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Timeline
Guido Hiertz presented 609r0: Resolutions for Orphan comments.
Dee Denteneer presented 631r0: MCCA comment resolutions
Michael Bahr presented 518r0
Summary of comment resolution status
Recess until Wednesday PM2
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

25. Presentation queue Michael: 618r0: Resolution MCCA Max Track CIDs
March 2010
Presentation queue
Michael: 618r0: Resolution MCCA Max Track CIDs
Jarkko: 508r2, power management – motion scheduled-t
Jarkko 579, QoS comments –motion scheduled-t
Jarrko: 642r2 M-Qos-free-EDCA motion scheduled-t
Dee: 502, MCCA comments motion scheduled-t
Dee: 657: MCCA-MLME motion scheduled-t
Liwen: 478r2, 11n- motion scheduled-t
Guido: orphan comments: 609r1- motion scheduled-t
Guido, 652r0
Dee Denteneer; Philips

26. Presentation queue Rene: 660r0, Emergency services motion scheduled-t
March 2010
Presentation queue
Rene: 660r0, Emergency services motion scheduled-t
Ashish: 547, cs-resolutions – motion scheduled-t
Kaz: 538r1, General frame format - motion scheduled-t
Dan 611r0 (xcl: 630r0): PLM
Dan: 632r0: (xcl: 639r0) misc. security comments
Dee Denteneer; Philips

27. Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:00-18:00 (TBD)
January 2010
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March 2010
Wednesday, 19 May :00-18:00 (TBD)
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

28. Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:00-18:00 (TBD)
January 2010
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March 2010
Wednesday, 19 May :00-18:00 (TBD)
Motion, moved to adopt the text changes in document 11-10/522r2 (“Resolving SAE comments”) to resolve the CIDs identified in 610r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Moved: Dan Harkins, Seconded: Kazuyuki Sakoda
Y: 8 N: 0 A:0
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

29. Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:00-18:00 (TBD)
January 2010
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March 2010
Wednesday, 19 May :00-18:00 (TBD)
Motion, moved to adopt the text changes given in document 11-10/540r3 (“mac-beaconing-sync-comment-resolution-text”) to resolve the comments in 539r2 and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Moved: Kazuyuki Sakoda, Seconded: Dan Harkins
Y: 8 N: 0 A: 0
Rene Purnadi: emergency support status update
Guido: discussion on 609r1
Jarkko led a discussion on PM based on 308r2
Kaz led a discussion on G-frame format based on 537r1.
Recess until Thursday 8:00
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

30. Thursday, 20 May 2010 8:00-10:00 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order
January 2010
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March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :00-10:00 (TBD)
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Guido presented 0609r1, and 652r0 on mesh gate and proxy terminology
Comment resolution and improvement of the Draft
Recess until 10:30
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

31. Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:30-12:30 (TBD) Call Meeting to Order
January 2010
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March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :30-12:30 (TBD)
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Comment resolution and improvement of the Draft
Recess until 16.00
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

32. Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00-18:00 Call Meeting to Order
January 2010
doc.: IEEE P /0036r0
March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :00-18:00
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

33. January 2010
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March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :00-18:00 (TBD)
Motion, moved to adopt the resolutions given in document 11-10/609r0 (“resolution to orphan comments”) to resolve CIDs 3058, 3349, 3125, 3126, 3419, 3028, 3199, 3182, 3181, 3183, and 3241and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Moved, Seconded
Y: N: A:
Motion, moved to adopt the resolutions given in document 11-10/547r0 (“comment-resolutions-liwen”) and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

34. Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00-18:00 Motion, Move to replace
January 2010
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March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :00-18:00
Motion, moved to adopt the resolutions given in document 11-10/538r2 (“general frame format comment resolutions”) and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Moved, Seconded
Y: N: A
Motion, Move to replace
“the mesh STA shall look for the appropriate timing of its beacon transmission so that its Beacon frames do not collide with Beacon frames transmitted by other STAs in its 2 hop range.” in 11C (TBTT selection) with “the mesh STA shall look for the appropriate timing of its beacon transmission so that its Beacon frames are likely not to collide with Beacon frames transmitted by other STAs in its 2 hop range.”.
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

35. January 2010
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March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :00-18:00
Motion, moved to adopt the text changes in document 11-10/660r0 (“G-emergency comments resolution”) and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Moved, Seconded
Y: N: A
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

36. Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00-18:00 (TBD) March 2010
January 2010
doc.: IEEE P /0036r0
March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :00-18:00 (TBD)
Motion, moved to adopt the resolutions given in document 11-10/509r0 (“RFI comment resolutions pre-Beijing”) with Resolution Codes “Counter”, “Accept”, or “Reject” identified by the identifiers “RFI-mb-April”,” RFI-mb-May03”, or “RFI-mb-May04” in Column X and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Moved, Seconded
Y: N: A
Motion, moved to adopt the resolutions given in document 11-10/547r0 (“m-cs resolutions”) with Resolution Codes “Counter” or “Reject” and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Y: N: A:
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

37. Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00-18:00 (TBD) March 2010
January 2010
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March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :00-18:00 (TBD)
Motion, moved to adopt the text changes in document 502r3 (Comment resolution for MCCA) to resolve the comments identified in document 11-10/509r0 via the labels “X”, “Y”, “Z”, “ZZ”, or “Michael” in Column X and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Moved, Seconded
Y: N: A
Motion, moved to adopt the text changes in document 657r1 (MCCA-MLME) to resolve the comments identified in document 11-10/509r0 via the labels “MLME” in Column X and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft.
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

38. November 2009
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November 2009
Thursday, 20 May :00 – 18:00
Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session.
Mover: Seconder:
Yes: No: Abstain:
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

39. Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00 – 18:00 Motion:
November 2009
doc.: IEEE P /1099r1
November 2009
Thursday, 20 May :00 – 18:00
Motion:
Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from LB#161 on P802.11s Draft 5.0 as contained in document 11-10/478TBD,
Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 6.0 incorporating these resolutions and,
Approve a 15 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11s Draft 6.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?”
Moved by <name> on behalf of TGs
TGs vote:
Moved: <name>, Seconded: <name>, Result: y-n-a
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

40. November 2009
doc.: IEEE P /1099r1
November 2009
Thursday, 20 May :00 – 18:00
Moved, to accept document 579r0 “TGs par extension” and ask the WG Chair to request a two year PAR extension from NESCOM.
Mover: Seconder:
Yes: No: Abstain:
Moved by <name> on behalf of TGs
TGs vote:
Moved: <name>, Seconded: <name>, Result: y-n-a
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

41. Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:00-18:00 Telcons: wednesdays,
January 2010
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March 2010
Thursday, 20 May :00-18:00
Telcons: wednesdays,
Time: either 10 am ET or 5 pm ET
Strawpoll
Prefer 10 am ET
Prefer 5 pm ET
Motion, moved to schedule TGs teleconferences on … at 10:00 ET for a maximum duration of 90 minutes.
Mover:, Seconder:
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

42. Thursday, 20 May 2010 Adjourn sine die
January 2010
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March 2010
Thursday, 20 May 2010
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

43. [Reference Information]
January 2010
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March 2010
[Reference Information]
Updated PAR at
Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1.
Comment Resolution Spreadsheet:
11-10/ 32r3 Resolution of Letter Ballot #159 Comments
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

44. [Reference Information]
January 2010
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March 2010
[Reference Information]
TGs Chairmen
Dee Denteneer,
Guido R. Hiertz (temporary Chairman), September 2009
Stuart J. Kerry (temporary Chairman), June 2009
Donald Eastlake 3rd, May 2004 – July 2009
TGs Technical Editors:
Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 … D3.0 …
Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02
Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 … D2.0
W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 … D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session)
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips

45. [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
January 2010
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March 2010
[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
January 2010, Los Angeles, CA, 11-10/102r0
November 2009, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-09/1223/0
September 2009, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-09/1016r0
July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0
May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0
March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0
January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0
November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0
September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0
September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0
July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0
Dee Denteneer; Philips
Dee Denteneer, Philips