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Report of TGv – July 2006 DATE: July 2006 Author(s) July 2005
doc.: IEEE /0927r5 July 2006 Report of TGv – July 2006 DATE: July 2006 Author(s) Name Company Address Phone Pat R. Calhoun Cisco Systems, Inc 170 West Tasman Dr., San Jose, CA 95134 Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at < Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Abstract Report of the meeting of TGv at the July 2006 session.
doc.: IEEE /0927r5 July 2006 Abstract Report of the meeting of TGv at the July 2006 session. Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Goals for July Review updated objectives draft
doc.: IEEE /0927r5 Goals for July July 2006 Review updated objectives draft Re-evaluate TGv timeline Can we pull up the Internal Review date Prepare response to ESIF sub-committee B (ATIS Emergency Services Forum) TGv normative text submissions New TGv Submissions Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Submissions New Submissions for July Meeting
v-transmitpowermanagement v-multilevelrfpower v-interference-diagnostic-presentation v_Preferred_Channel_Power_Saving.ppt v-standby-time-improvements v-managed-object-request-response v-application-layer-location v-wlan-paging-power-saving v-WLAN Paging and Idle Mode v-bc-and-mc-enhancements v-time-synchronization-over and lans-av-applications v-Dynamic signaling of parameter for target network behavior and operation v-bss-channel-switch Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Monday Proposed Agenda
July 2006 Review IEEE patent policy Approve minutes from last meeting Approve Agenda Review weekly goals & Objectives (11-06/0827r8) TGv Text Submissions 17:10-17: v-Dynamic signaling of parameter for target network behavior and operation (Emmelman) 17:55 - Recess for the day Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Tuesday Proposed Agenda
July 2006 TGv Text Submissions 13:30-14: v-multilevelrfpower (Backes) 14:15-15: v-bc-and-mc-enhancements (Thomson) 15:00-15: v-interference-diagnostic-presentation (Jokela) 15:30-16:00 - Break 16:00-16: v-Power Saving for DLS (Qi) 16:30-17: v-WLAN Paging and Idle Mode (Qi) 17:15-17:45 – v-managed-object-request-response (Rudolf) 17:45-18:00 – Open for now… 18:00 - Recess for the day Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Thursday Proposed Agenda
July 2006 AM Session TGv Text Submissions 08:00-08:45 – v-time synchronization over and LANs for AV applications, with implications to TGv (Stanton) 08:45-09:30 – v-multilevelrfpower (Backes) 09:30-10:00 Re-evaluate Milestones PM Session 13:30-14: v_Preferred_Channel_Power_Saving (Kwak) 14:15-15:00 – v-bss-channel-switch (Kwak) 15:00-15:30 – Plans for September New/Old Business Adjourn Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Motion to approve TGv May 2006 minutes
July 2006 Moved: to approve meeting minutes 11-06/0714r1 Mover: Emily Qi Seconder: Floyd Backes Passes: Unanimous Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Attendance Credits and Locations
July 2006 Attendance Credits and Locations Credits 16 Official meetings this week 6.25% per meeting = 100% 6.25% for all Monday Evening Tutorials (Extra Credit) 6.25% for all Tuesday Evening Tutorials (Extra Credit) Locations Attendance Documents 802wirelessworld: FOR WEB SITE DOCUMENTATION ONLY DO NOT THIS SITE FOR UPDATING CONTACT INFORMATION DO NOT USE FOR ATTENDANCE Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
July 2005 doc.: IEEE /0927r5 July 2006 IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents whose infringement is, or in the case of patent applications, potential future infringement the applicant asserts will be, unavoidable in a compliant implementation of either mandatory or optional portions of the standard [essential patents]. This assurance shall be provided without coercion. The patent holder or applicant should provide this assurance as soon as reasonably feasible in the standards development process. This assurance shall be provided no later than the approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent or patent application becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be either: a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement either mandatory or optional portions of the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity complying with the standard; or b) A statement that a license for such implementation will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination. This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Slide #1 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003 (Revised January 2006) Pat R Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings
July 2005 doc.: IEEE /0927r5 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings July 2006 Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003 (Revised January 2006) Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Straw Poll #1 July 2006 Do you want objectives for which no proposals have been presented moved to the “inactive objectives” section, remove them from the document, or leave the document as-is? Move to “inactive objectives”: 1 Remove them from the document: 9 Leave the document as-is: 13 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Straw Poll #2 July 2006 Do you feel that the ideas described in 06/0975r0 should be considered in scope for TGv? Yes: 7 No: 10 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Straw Poll #3 Is Power Saving for DLS in scope of TGv? Yes: 6 No: 31
July 2006 Is Power Saving for DLS in scope of TGv? Yes: 6 No: 31 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Straw Poll #4 Is there interest in time synchronization in TGv?
July 2006 Is there interest in time synchronization in TGv? Yes: 27 No: 7 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Straw Poll #5 July 2006 Do you support use of Net Advice on designated Preferred Channels to improve STA power savings? Yes: 13 No: 2 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Straw Poll #6 July 2006 TGv will no longer provide meeting time for topics that have not been presented before or during the November 2006 meeting Yes: 2 No: 27 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Objectives Straw Polls
July 2006 Do you consider the following objectives of high interest or not? 1400. Yes: 1, No: 24 1410. Yes: 0, No: 23 1500. Yes: 6, No: 13 2000. Yes: 21, No: 6 2010. Yes: 25, No: 6 2020. Yes: 1, No: 31 2040. Yes: 9, No: 13 2041. Yes: 15, No: 9 2050. Yes: 17, No: 12 2071. Yes: 22, No: 9 2080. Yes: 0, No: 23 2100. Yes: 6, No: 19 2110. Yes: 17, No: 9 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Motion July 2006 Move to Instruct the editor to incorporate the normative text proposal in v-Managed-Object Request-Response-Normative-text” into TGv Draft 0.02 Moved: Seconded: Yes: No: Abstain: Motion [Fails/Passes]: Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Motion July 2006 Move to include the substantive text in document 11-05/1068r6, with the addition of changing all instances of “Transmit Power Limit” to “Relative Power Limit” into the TGv draft. Moved: Floyd Backes Seconded: Sudheer Matha Yes: 14 No: 9 Abstain: 14 Motion [Fails/Passes]: Fails Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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July 2005 doc.: IEEE /0927r5 Motion July 2006 Move to include normative text in document v-bc-and-mc-enhancements into the TGv draft Moved: Allan Thomson Seconded: Jari Jokela Yes: 15 No: 4 Abstain: 23 Motion [Fails/Passes]: Passes Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Motion July 2006 Move to include normative text in document v-interference-diagnostic into the TGv draft Moved: Jari Jokela Seconded: Allan Thomson Yes: 9 No: 5 Abstain: 22 Motion [Fails/Passes]: Fails Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Motion July 2006 Move to include normative text in document v-bc-and-mc-enhancements into the TGv draft Moved: Allan Thomson Seconded: Jari Jokela Yes: 15 No: 4 Abstain: 23 Motion [Fails/Passes]: Fails Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Motion July 2006 Move to include normative text in document v-bc-and-mc-enhancements into the TGv draft Moved: Allan Thomson Seconded: Jari Jokela Yes: 15 No: 4 Abstain: 23 Motion [Fails/Passes]: Fails Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Vote for Inclusion into TGv Draft
July 2006 Move to instruct the editor to include normative text for BSS Channel Switch in 06/0387r3 into next version of TGv Draft. Moved by Joe Kwak Seconded _Victoria Poncini_________ YES 17 No 7 Abstain 8 Motion Fails Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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TGv Proposed Timeline The following time table will be used by TGv
July 2006 The following time table will be used by TGv Base line accepted: January 06 (Completed) Submissions addressing objectives: Start in March 06 TG Ad-Hoc Draft Internal Review: May 07 This will be an internal review, with an additional meeting (January) to address internal comments First WG Letter Ballot: September 07 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Work completed July 2006 The following normative text has been accepted and will be integrated into the next TGv draft: v-bc-and-mc-enhancements Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Attendance July 2006 Attendance: 55 Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Output Documents 11-05/0827r9 – TGv Objectives
July 2005 doc.: IEEE /0927r5 Output Documents July 2006 11-05/0827r9 – TGv Objectives D0.03 TGv Draft Specification 11-06/0927r4 – TGv July 2006 meeting report (this document) 11-06/1019r4 – TGv July 2006 meeting minutes Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco Pat R Calhoun, Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Goals for September Review updated objectives draft
July 2006 Review updated objectives draft TGv normative text submissions BSS Switch (Kwak) Multi Level Transmit Power (Rudolf) WLAN Paging and Idle Mode (Qi) Preferred Channel Power Saving (Kwak) (placeholder) Interference Measurement (Kwak) Co-located Interference Diagnostics (Jakola) Measurement Pilot Rules (Durand) Managed Object Request Response (Rudolf) Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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Adjourn Meeting adjourned at 15:23 on July 20, 2006 July 2006
Pat R. Calhoun, Cisco
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