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1 March 2010 Mesh Meeting Agenda
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 March 2010 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: Authors: Name Address Affiliation Phone Dee Denteneer HTC 37; 5656 AE Eindhoven; The Netherlands Philips Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

2 IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Orlando, Fl March 15-18, 2010 Chair: Dee Denteneer (Philips) Vice Chair: Guido Hiertz (Philips) Temporary Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

3 General Flow of the TGs Meeting
March 2010 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Administrivia Call for candidates vice Secretary, vice Chair Assignments of comments Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Tuesday AM2: selection of candidates vice Secretary, vice Chair Wednesday Thursday TGs Process Discussion Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes Dee Denteneer; Philips

4 Miscellaneous Announcements
March 2010 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Dee Denteneer; Philips

5 March 2010 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: Anti-Trust: IEEE Ethics: Letter of Assurance Form: IEEE Patent Committee: IEEE Patent Policy: Patent FAQ: Dee Denteneer; Philips

6 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

7 Patent Related Links March 2010 All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Dee Denteneer; Philips

8 Call for Potentially Essential Patents
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

9 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

10 Automated Attendance Recording
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: or or just Sign-in Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

11 Monday, 15 March 2010 8:00-10:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 15 March :00-10:00 (Bonaire 5) Call Ad Hoc Meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Manual attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Ad Hoc Meeting Agenda Status Allocation of CIDs Contributions Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Adjourn Ad Hoc Meeting Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

12 Monday, 15 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
Category Original Remaining Volunteer G-Base 3 1 Guido/Kaz G-Def 4 G-Discovery 22 21 Kaz G-Editor 87 G-Frame 10 2 G-General G-Emergency Rene G-MIB Kaz-check G-PICS Note: Guido et al. are working on G-comments Dee Denteneer; Philips

13 Monday, 15 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
Category Original Remaining Volunteer M-BS 72 58 Kaz M-CC 2 1 M-CS 42 Ashish Shukla M-General 6 5 M-MCCA 209 133 Guido/Dee M-PM 18 16 Jarrko M-11n 4 Liwen Chu Dee Denteneer; Philips

14 Monday, 15 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
Category Original Remaining Volunteer R-LM 3 2 Guenael/Michael R-FF 25 17 R-FWD 26 16 R-General 6 R-HWMP 59 45 R-Portal 11 R-Proxy R-PU 10 Dee Denteneer; Philips

15 Monday, 15 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
Category Original Remaining Volunteer S-General 26 21 Dan Harkins S-Editorial 13 Kazuyuki Sakoda S-Frame 10 David Halasz S-E2E 1 Guido S-PLM 34 15 See 10/110r0-280r1 S-SAE 67 11 Dee Denteneer; Philips

16 Monday, 15 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 15 March :00-18:00 (Bonaire 5) Presentation Status report Kazuyuki Sakoda, “Draft D4.01 status report”, s Comment allocation Kazuyuki Sakoda, “LB 159 Comment Resolutions”, s Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

17 Monday, 15 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 15 March :00-18:00 (Bonaire 5) Call Meeting to Order Miscellaneous Announcements Automated attendance reminder Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Meeting Agenda Approval of Minutes: LA meeting minutes: 11-10/102r0 Teleconference minutes: Feb 3, 2010: 11-10/196r1r0 Feb 17, 2010: 11-10/228r0 March 3, 2010: 11-10/271r1 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

18 Monday, 15 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 15 March :00-18:00 (Bonaire 5) Motion Moved to reopen the comments with CID 2003, 2327, and 2329 for reconsideration by the s Task Group Moved: Kazuyuki Sakoda Seconded: Jarkko Kneckt Yes: 10 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Presentation Dave Halasz (Aclara), “S-Frame comments”, r1 Moved to adopt document r1 and close the comments CIDs 2430, 2431, 2461, 2501, 2503, 2605, 2606, and 2607. Moved: Dave Halasz Seconded: Henry Qu Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

19 Monday, 15 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Monday, 15 March :00-18:00 (Bonaire 5) Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Straw Poll Interest in ad hoc sub groups MAC: 3 RFI: 3 Security: 2 General: 0 Rene Michael Dave Report of the ad hoc sub groups Recess until Tuesday 08:00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

20 Tuesday, 16 March 2010 08:00-10:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Tuesday, 16 March :00-10:00 (Bonaire 5) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Presentation Dan Harkins presented ”sae-text-cleanup” as in 207r1 Dan Harkins presented, “new-sae-test-vectors” as in 229r0 Motion, Moved, to adopt the text changes in submission 229r0 (“SAE test vectors” ) to resolve CID 2316 and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover: Dan Harkins Seconder: Guido Hiertz Yes: 10 No: 0 Abstain:0 -> motion passes Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

21 Tuesday, 16 March 2010 08:00-10:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Tuesday, 16 March :00-10:00 (Bonaire 5) Kaz Sakoda presented “MAC beaconing sync comment resolution overview” in 224r0; Kaz Sakoda presented “General discovery comment resolution overview” in 268r0; Michael Bahr presented “Path error fixes” in 345r0 Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until Tuesday, 10:30 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

22 Tuesday, 16 March 2010 10:30-12:30 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Tuesday, 16 March :30-12:30 (Bonaire 5) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until 10:30 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

23 Presentation queue Harkins, resolving-plm-comments, 280r2
March 2010 Presentation queue Harkins, resolving-plm-comments, 280r2 Jin-Meng-Ho, SAE Protocols Flaws and Fixes, 119r2 Purnadi, Emergency Call Support, 269r1 Dee Denteneer; Philips

24 Presentation queue Shukla, MLME-START extension for mesh, 135r1
March 2010 Presentation queue Shukla, MLME-START extension for mesh, 135r1 Shukla M-CS resolutions, 205r1 Shukla, Management frames priorities, 379r0 Kneckt, Power-Save-Terminology-Refinements-for-Annex, 225r0 Denteneer , MCCA-comment-resolution, 201r2 Jin-Meng-Ho, SAE Protocols Flaws and Fixes, 119r2 Dee Denteneer; Philips

25 Wednesday, 17 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Wednesday, 17 March :00-18:00 (Bonaire 5) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Approval of Minutes: Monday morning Ad Hoc minutes: r0 Motion, Moved, to adopt the text changes in submission 222r2 (“MAC beacoing sync comment resolution text” ) to resolve the CIDs indentified in the abstract and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

26 Wednesday, 17 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Wednesday, 17 March :00-18:00 (Bonaire 5) Motion, Moved, to adopt the text changes in submission 135r1 (“MLME-START extension for mesh” ) to resolve the CIDs indentified in the abstract and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Motion, Moved, to adopt the text changes in submission 136r0 (“Inclusion of Beacon Timing in BSSDescription” ) to resolve the CIDs indentified in the abstract and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

27 Wednesday, 17 March 2010 16:00-18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Wednesday, 17 March :00-18:00 (Bonaire 5) Motion, Moved, to adopt the text changes in submission 345r1 (“RFI-PER fixes” ) to resolve CIDs 2211, 2210, 2212, 2236, 2237, and 2744 with resolutions as indicated in, 11-10/369r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Motion, Moved, to adopt the text changes in submission 207r1 (“SAE text clean up” ) to resolve the CIDs indentified in the abstract and direct the Editor to incorporate the changes into the draft. Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Recess until Thursday 8:00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

28 Thursday, 18 March2010 8:00-10:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 18 March :00-10:00 (Bonaire 5) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Comment resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 10:30 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

29 Thursday, 18 March 2010 10:30-12:30 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 18 March :30-12:30 (Bonaire 5) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Comment resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 16.00 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

30 Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5)
November 2009 doc.: IEEE P /1099r1 November 2009 Thursday, 18 March :00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5) Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Mover: Seconder: Yes: No: Abstain: Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

31 Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5)
November 2009 doc.: IEEE P /1099r1 November 2009 Thursday, 18 March :00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5) Motion: Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from LB#159 on P802.11s Draft 4.0 as contained in document 11-10/32rTBD, Instruct the editor to prepare Draft 5.0 incorporating these resolutions and, Approve a 15 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11s Draft 5.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?” Moved by <name> on behalf of TGs TGs vote: Moved: <name>, Seconded: <name>, Result: y-n-a Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar Switches

32 Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 18 March :00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5) Telcons: Wednesdays, Time: either 10 am ET or 5 pm ET Strawpoll Prefer 10 am ET Prefer 5 pm ET Motion, moved to schedule TGs teleconferences on … at 10:00 ET for a maximum duration of 90 minutes. Mover:, Seconder: Approved by unanimous consent Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

33 Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 18 March :00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5) Ad hoc-discussion Motion, moved to hold a TGs ad hoc on in .. Mover:, Seconder: Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

34 Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5)
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 Thursday, 18 March :00 – 18:00 (Bonaire 5) Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

35 [Reference Information]
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: 11-10/ 32r3 Resolution of Letter Ballot #159 Comments Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

36 [Reference Information]
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 [Reference Information] TGs Chairmen Dee Denteneer, Guido R. Hiertz (temporary Chairman), September 2009 Stuart J. Kerry (temporary Chairman), June 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, May 2004 – July 2009 TGs Technical Editors: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 … D3.0 … Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 & D2.02 Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 … D2.0 W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 … D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips

37 [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
January 2010 doc.: IEEE P /0036r0 March 2010 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes January 2010, Los Angeles, CA, 11-10/102r0 November 2009, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-09/1223/0 September 2009, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-09/1016r0 July 2009, San Francisco, California, 11-09/902r0 May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0 March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0 January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0 November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0 September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 Dee Denteneer; Philips Dee Denteneer, Philips


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