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TGad July 2010 Report Date: 2010-07-13 Authors: July 2010 April 2007
doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 TGad July 2010 Report Date: Authors: Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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July 2010 Meeting Protocol Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot Slide 2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Register Indicate attendance Attendance
July 2010 Attendance Register Indicate attendance See document r0 for more details Slide 3 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Attendance, Voting & Document Status
July 2010 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area see Adrian Stephens – Cell Phones Silent or Off Slide 4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Patent Policy Following 5 slides July 2010 April 2007
doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Patent Policy Following 5 slides Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Instructions for the WG Chair
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Instructions for the WG Chair The IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee: Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation Advise the WG attendees that: The IEEE’s patent policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy and is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws; Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE, the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development. Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting: That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown; That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom. The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance. It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual and in FAQs 12 and 12a on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference. Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board. (Optional to be shown) Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Slide #1 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Patent Related Links Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual Material about the patent policy is available at If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Slide #2 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Slide #3 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Slide #4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Agenda Items for the Week
July 2010 Agenda Items for the Week Call for secretary Set agenda for the week Review from May Approve minutes from May Editor Report Review conference calls ITU-R 60 GHz liaison Also on the agenda for Wed AM1 in Madeleine AB Comment resolution on D0.1 Other presentations Planning for September Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Submissions ITU-R liaison Comment Resolution Other July 2010
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Submissions ITU-R liaison 11-10/824r0 Comment Resolution Proposed resolutions embedded in 10/717r6 10/833r0, Assaf Kasher 10/883r0, Thomas Derham (Wed PM2) 10/887r1, Brad Lynch (Th AM1) 10/884r0, Dan Harkins (Th AM1) Other 10/0732r2, “Further Rotation Modulation Application”, Wu Zhanji and Luo Zhengdong Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Tentative TGad Agenda for the Week
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Tentative TGad Agenda for the Week Monday July 12th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary Review from May Review conference calls Approve minutes from May Editor Report ITU-R 60 GHz liaison Comment resolution on D0.1 Tuesday July 13th, 13:30 – 15:30 Tuesday July 13th, 16:00 – 18:00 Tuesday July 13th, 19:30 – 21:30 Wednesday July 14th, 13:30-15:50 Call for secretary Motions on resolved CIDs Comment resolution on D0.1 Wednesday July 14th, 16:00-18:00 Thursday July 15th, 8:00 – 10:00 Thursday July 15th, 13:30 – 15:30 China WPAN GHZ liaison request (10/869) Planning for July Goals for July Conference calls Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Monday July 12th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Monday July 12th, 13:30 – 15:30 Call for secretary Set agenda for the week Review from May Approve minutes from May Editor report Review conference calls ITU-R 60 GHz liaison Comment resolution on D0.1 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Review from May Complete proposals presentations
July 2010 Review from May Complete proposals presentations New Technique proposal presentations Vote to confirm 10/433r2 as TGad D0.1 passed 68/0/1 Initiated comment submission period Editor election Carlos Cordeiro elected as TGad Editor, by acclamation Channel Modeling Enterprise cubicle model complete Channel model document updated and approved 44/0/1 ITU-R 60GHz liaison discussion, 10/647 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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July 2010 May Minutes Motion to approve May ‘10 TGad minutes as contained in r0 Move: Vinko Second: James Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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July 2010 Editor Report 11-10/823r0 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Review of Conference Calls
July 2010 Review of Conference Calls Cumulative minutes from 2010 in 10/0013r3 One call on July 1, :00 ET Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Notes for Monday July 12th, 13:30 – 15:30
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Notes for Monday July 12th, 13:30 – 15:30 All comment resolution submission requests withdrawn ITR-R 60GHz liaison, 10/824r0 presented Feedback on ITU-R liaison response due by start of Tues PM1 meeting, with motion to be run during Tues PM1 Will be presented in on Wed AM1 10/0732r2 presented Comment resolution, 10/717r3 CIDs 6, 7, 16, 18, 19, 28, 69, 70, 123, 124, 71 resolved, will be motioned on Wed PM1 CID 45 defer, requested by Yuichi, will be included in submission by Toyoda Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Notes for Tues July 13th, 13:30 – 15:30
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Notes for Tues July 13th, 13:30 – 15:30 ITU-R 60GHz liaison c related changes were added to 10/824r1, but then removed based on discussion that 10/824 is a submission from and should submit c related changes as they are the c experts Motion passed to forward to (see next slide) Comment Resolution 10/833r1, PHY comments Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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ITU-R 60GHz Liaison Motion
July 2010 ITU-R 60GHz Liaison Motion Move to request that the WG chair forward 11-10/824r2 to as the response to ITU-R 60GHz liaison Move/second: Ali Sadri / Shu Kato Yes: 40 No: 1 Abs: 4 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Notes for Tues July 13th, 16:00 – 18:00
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Notes for Tues July 13th, 16:00 – 18:00 Comment Resolution 10/833r1, PHY comments, continued; no objections to resolutions in 10/833r2 Will be motioned on Wed PM1 Process discussion on Editorial comments Editorial comments will be actioned by editor Will not be individually reviewed and motioned in TG sessions Motion of draft will cover resolutions to Editorial comments However, participants are welcome to bring to the attention of editor any issues with resolutions 10/717r4 CIDs 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 92, 93, 94, 105, 129, 106, 107, 108, 114, 127, 136, 138, 139, 143, 144, 155, 157, 158, 160, 172 resolved, will be motioned on Wed PM1 CID 84, 88, 89, 90, 91 deferred; will be sent to commenter requesting a submission by September CID 168 reclassified by commenter as Editorial Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Notes for Tues July 13th, 19:30 – 21:30
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Notes for Tues July 13th, 19:30 – 21:30 Comment Resolution 10/717r4 CIDs 174, 177, 181, 182, 183, 185, 187, 188, 189, 192, 198, 199, 200, 201, 208, 209, 191, 210, 211, 214, 216, 220, 224, 228, 229, 230, 233, 236, 242, 243, 245 resolved, will be motioned on Wed PM1 CID 225 deferred, assigned to Brian Hart CID 232 deferred, assigned to Solomon Trainin CID 234 withdrawn by commenter Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Notes for Wed July 14th, 13:30 – 15:30
Motions on next slide approved Comment Resolution 10/717r5 CIDs 169, 248, 252, 253, 255, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 283, 293, 300, 305, 308, 310 resolved, will be motioned on Th PM1 CID 247 deferred, assigned to Solomon Trainin CID 309 deferred to give commenter more time to review proposed resolution CID 320 deferred, assigned to Avinash/Carlos Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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July 2010 Motion #1 Moved: Approve resolution of all comments found in document 11-10/0833r2. PHY comment group no objections to resolutions during review Move/Second: Carlos/Sai Approved by acclamation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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July 2010 Motion #2 Moved: Approve resolution of comments 6, 7, 16, 18, 19, 28, 69, 70, 123, 124, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 92, 93, 94, 105, 129, 106, 107, 108, 114, 127, 136, 138, 139, 143, 144, 155, 157, 158, 160, 172, 174, 177, 181, 182, 183, 185, 187, 188, 189, 192, 198, 199, 200, 201, 208, 209, 191, 210, 211, 214, 216, 220, 224, 228, 229, 230, 233, 236, 242, 243, 245, found in document 11-10/0717r5. no objection to resolutions during review Move/Second: Sai/Brad Approved by acclamation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Notes for Wed July 14th, 16:00 – 18:00
Comment Resolution 10/883r0, Thomas Derham CID 96 – modified resolution in r1 CID 98 – deferred, assigned to Thomas/Chris/Carlos/Solomon/Assaf CID 99 – withdrawn by commenter CID 292 – deferred, assigned to Thomas/Assaf 10/717r6 CIDs 309, 311, 327, 322 will be motioned on Th PM1 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Notes for Th July 15th, 8:00 – 10:00 Comment Resolution
10/887r1, Brad Lynch 10/884r0, Dan Harkins Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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July 2010 Backup Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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July 2010 Motion #3 Moved: Approve resolution of CID 96 found in document 11-10/0883r1. no objections to resolution during review Move/Second: Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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July 2010 Motion #4 Moved: Approve resolution of comments 169, 248, 252, 253, 255, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 283, 293, 300, 305, 308, 310, 309, 311, 327, 322, found in document 11-10/0717r6. no objection to resolutions during review Move/Second: Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Goals for September Comment Resolution ITU-R 60GHz liaison LB on D1.0
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Goals for September Comment Resolution ITU-R 60GHz liaison LB on D1.0 Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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Conference call times Not overlap with TGac Aug 19, Sept 2, Sept 30
April 2007 doc.: IEEE /0570r0 July 2010 Conference call times Not overlap with TGac Aug 19, Sept 2, Sept 30 10:00-12:00 EDT Aug 12, 26, Sept 23, Oct 7 20:00-22:00 EDT Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation Eldad Perahia, Intel Corporation
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