1. Law Enforcement Sensitive
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Interrogating Suspected
Countermeasures Cases
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2. What is a “Countermeasure?”
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What is a “Countermeasure?”
Course definition
Agency policy
Does your agency have a written CM policy?
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3. Policy Points to Consider
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Policy Points to Consider
Advisements, Warnings, Final Warnings
Adjudication of CM admissions
Time management
Know what weight your Agency will give to both suspected and confirmed cases
Poll the class on what their agency’s policy is on warnings.
Poll the class on how their agency addresses suspected and confirmed use of CMs.
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Interrogation Tracks
When you only suspect…
Proceed with caution
Provide non-threatening reminder
Collect more data
Seek a second opinion
Probe
They say some folks are so numb, they haven’t got a clue. Hubert’s so numb, he doesn’t even suspect!
Michigan airport case.
This was a three series TES.
Didn’t like what I was seeing after TES-A, but couldn’t put a finger on it, so I ran TES-B.
After collecting TES-C, I probed with, “sometimes people come to poly planning to tell 100% truth, but get scared…” and I saw a buy sign.
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Interrogation Tracks
When you think you know…
Warning required?
If yes, was it given?
If no, provide and recollect data
Regard your customer’s expectations
If appropriate, interrogate!
What’s the goal of the interrogation?
Discuss the importance of interrogating on RQ response vs. Cms.
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What’s the Goal?
Confirm your suspicion!
Who? What?
When? Where?
Why? How?
Who told him?
What did they tell him to do? What did he actually do/how was it done? (Don’t be content with just one answer)
When/Where/at What questions was it done?
What was expected outcome?
When did he make the decision to employ CMs? (Days/weeks prior to test day or spur of the moment?)
Why did he do it/what was he trying to hide?
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What’s the Order?
Listen for “buzz words”
Obtain admission to a conduct
Acquire Subject’s understanding of the process
Have Subject relate where/when the activity was employed
Ask when s/he decided to employ the tactic
Get the why
I’ve had good luck with, “this is NOT normal physiology. Your body would NEVER do this involuntarily.”
Explain the photo ID analogy.
Acquire Subject’s understanding w/o leading him to the answers:
tell me about the question types we used today
tell me what each type is used for—how will I use these questions? (if TES, you’ve already done this)
listen for terms of art/buzz words: “control question, directed lie, probable lie, relevant question, irrelevant question, reaction, response, false positive” and never use these terms yourself during your pretest.
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Guidelines
Use euphemistic terms
Use analogies to which Subject can relate
Plan on the process taking at least an hour
Think as your customer will (don’t waste time seeking non-valued info)
Acquire the truth
Initially, avoid terms that could raise the S’s fear of making admissions:
Ask the class, what terms might we use in a CM interrogation that could scare the S into silence? (countermeasure, defeat the test, manipulate the data, quoting anti poly websites)
Analogies: snowball rolling down a hill, digging a hole in beach sand, sinking ship.
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Themes
You got bad information, not your fault
You were afraid of a false positive
You like to experiment with things
You were only trying to be helpful
You were curious about what would happen
Self explanatory
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Guidelines
Don’t give up!!!
Quitters get exactly what they deserve:
Nothing!
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