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1 Explicit feedback with sounding packet
May 2006 doc.: IEEE /0xxxr0 July 2006 Explicit feedback with sounding packet Date: Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Joonsuk Kim, Broadcom Matthew Fischer, Broadcom

2 CIDs to cover in LB84 comments
July 2006 CIDs to cover in LB84 comments CID numbers to cover 11959, 947, 948, 949, 950, 951, 4144, 1072, 952, 4145, 10286, 954, 4147, 957, 4150, 969, 1073, 4161, 968, 970, 4526, 2697 Joonsuk Kim, Broadcom

3 July 2006 Current draft D1.0 Current draft D1.0 has conflicts in PHY and MAC sections In (Page 124, line 15), the sequence is initiated by an AP which sends an un-steered sounding PPDU for CSI feedback request. In (Page 221, Line 16), when using a transmit steering matrix Qk , it needs an estimate of the effective channel HkQk , where Qk is in this case a NtxxNSTS orthonormal steering matrix. The sounding PPDU sounds the effective channel that includes spatial mapping matrix Qk at the transmitter. Joonsuk Kim, Broadcom

4 explicit feedback with current sounding packet
July 2006 explicit feedback with current sounding packet We may have a spatial mapping matrix, Q, for sounding PPDU in explicit feedback Beamformee may estimate the channel, which is HQ, not H, to feedback either the full effective channel or beamforming matrix V, where V is determined using HQ. For example of SVD BF, HQ = USV* Joonsuk Kim, Broadcom

5 July 2006 Proposed solution Beamformee may return HQ for full channel feedback, or V for beamforming matrix feedback. CSI feedback When Beamformee sends back the measured channel, the measured channel includes the Q matrix which is used in the sounding packet. Note (CID3962) that H_eff is defined as a transfer function from the transmitter spatial mapper input to the receiver FFT outputs We should define H_eff = HQ, which is the effective channel including the spatial mapping matrix (CID 11959, 952, 4145, 10286, 3962,11979) The beamformee removes the CSD in table n67 from the measured channel matrix before it returns CSI feedback. Joonsuk Kim, Broadcom

6 Proposed solution (cont.)
July 2006 Proposed solution (cont.) V matrix feedback (either compressed or uncompressed) Beamformee sends back V and Beamformer needs to modify it to account for Q in H_eff, where V is found from H_eff. We introduce Q_steer. (CID 947, 948, 949, 950, 951, 4144, 1072, 954, 4147, 957, 4150, 969, 1073, 4161, 968, 970) Tx shall use Q_steer = QV for new steering matrix by modifying fedback V with the original Q used in the sounding PPDU. H_eff = HQ = USV* for the example of SVD operation HQQ*QV = USV*Q*QV  HQV = HQ_steer = US Joonsuk Kim, Broadcom

7 How to resolve We can resolve it by introducing H_eff and Q_steer.
July 2006 How to resolve We can resolve it by introducing H_eff and Q_steer. In (Page 124, line 15), change the sentence to “the sequence is initiated by an AP which sends a sounding PPDU for CSI feedback request.” Proposed Names Q: Spatial mapping matrix Q_steer: Steering matrix V: Beamforming feedback matrix Normative text will be provided Joonsuk Kim, Broadcom

8 July 2006 References n-tgn-d1-0-lb84-beamforming-and-adapation.xls Joonsuk Kim, Broadcom


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