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DOVs – Everything You Need to Know!
Dr Helen Mullner, Dr Simon Hay and guests Hello. We are going to spend the next session talking about external DOVs at GPEx. No you probably don’t want to hear from me so GPEx ME Dr Helen Mulllner registrar visit expert and supervisor is going to co facilitate this session. However, it doesn’t stop there - we are also going to hear from a panel and you.
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Welcome To Panel Members
Jacky Genesin – Practice Manager Dr Tim Bromley Dr Chrissy Psvedos So I am going to welcome up the panel.
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Structure of Today’s Session
Why do we do DOVs?. How do we manage External DOVs at GPEx? Who Will You Be Visiting? Recommendations – How to set up and structure a DOV. Starting the DOV - Setting the Scene. The Observation Itself What are YOU Happy to be Asked? When to take over the consultation. The do’s and don’t’s of DOVs. Reporting of DOVs. What about ACRRM Registrars? Troubleshooting. Simon
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Why do we do DOVs? “Provide an opportunity to observe registrars working in their practices and seeing first hand the relationships between the registrar, staff, patients and other health professionals and the community in general.” RVTS Guide to Conducting Clinical Teaching Visits Helen “Provide an opportunity to observe registrars working in their practices and seeing first hand the relationships between the registrar, staff, patients and other health professionals and the community in general.” RVTS Guide to Conducting Clinical Teaching Visits Provides an independent assessment of the registrar Provides the opportunity to the registrars to be taught by another GP Provides the opportunity to learn about the approach of another GP from another clinic – with another way of approaching general practice Provides an opportunity to gain information about how the clinic is performing as a training post It is a college requirement.
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How do we manage ‘External’ DOVs at GPEx?
Simon – with help of Vicky and/or Holly
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Who Will You Be Visiting?
Senior registrars Shouldn’t have a conflict of interest e.g. Family or friend Close colleague in past Previous supervisor Poor relationship with registrar, their supervisor or their practice Usually in your region Simon etc
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Recommendations on How to Set Up and Structure a DOV.
Call or the practice Organise a date and time Most DOVs take 3 hours Discussion with the registrar Observation of the registrar Debriefing with the registrar and supervisor Simon Bring attention to copies of instruction sheets.
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Recommendations on How to Set Up and Structure a DOV.
Activity People Involved Arrival Discussion with Registrar Visitor and Registrar 30 minutes Consultation 1 45 minutes Consultation 2 60 minutes Consultation 3 75 minutes Debrief on 3 consultations 90 minutes Consultation 4 105 minutes Consultation 5 120 minutes Consultation 6 135 minutes 150 minutes Overall Debrief with Registrar 160 minutes Meet with Supervisor Visitor and Supervisor 170 minutes Meet with Registrar and Supervisor Visitor, Registrar and Supervisor 180 minutes Finish DOV Visitor Simon
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Starting the DOV – Setting the Scene!
Helen Ask the panel for comments on how they set the scene Introduce yourself and thank registrar for allowing you to come Reassure them that you are there to help them become a better GP Check that the DOV schedule has been set up as requested Discuss how they are feeling their placement is progressing – do they have any concerns? Have they integrated into the community (if rural) What are their Exam plans? When are they sitting? What study are they doing? Advise the registrar to obtain patient consent before the patient enters the room. Occasionally patients will say no. Discuss with the registrar how they should introduce you. Discuss where to sit in the room. Advise the registrar that if they conduct sensitive physical examinations e.g. PR or vaginal examination/Pap smear, to draw the curtain around the patient as you will not be observing the examination. Registrars need to advise patients about this. Discuss how much you are happy to be involved in the consultation itself. Ask the registrar to brief you on the patient before they call the patient in.
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The Observation Itself
Helen and Simon Panel discussion regarding what happens in the observations of consults. What they always need to be mindful of.
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The Observation Itself – Key Points
Try and be out of the line of sight of patient Ask the registrar for a summary of the next patient Observe and try not to participate Make notes during the consultation Note quotes if possible for feedback Helen Will probably come up in discussion Add more Some people use laptop during observations, I prefer paper and pen, head down, silent!
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Two Questions To Discuss.
What are you happy to be asked by the registrar? When should you take over the consultation? Helen – brainstorm at tables these two questions
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What Are You Happy To Be Asked?
You are there as an observer Use your discretion – quick questions may be ok Whenever possible do not get involved in the consultation It is important to observe registrar- supervisor dynamics Helen After the table discussions
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When Should You Take Over The Consultation?
Never take over the consultation completely You may need to stop a registrar from making an error When do you step in? Depends upon the situation. Do you Talk to registrar after? Speak up during the consultation? Simon After the table discussions
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The Dos and Don'ts of DOVs!
Simon and Helen Panel Need to add some, I think we can ask the panel, of reflect on things already raised!
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Reporting of DOVs. Discussion with registrar
Discussion with supervisor Discussion with registrar and supervisor Written report – nothing in the report should be a surprise to the registrar or supervisor What if there is something that you don’t want to put in the report? Well…. There are avenues open to you – talk to GPEx Speak to their Medical Educator Speak to their Program Training Advisor Speak to a Senior Medical Educator at GPEx Simon I will go through these steps
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What about ACRRM Registrars?
DOVs are much the same but …. Mini CEX Report on an individual consultation ACRRM registrars have to do 9 across their training 3 different observers 5 different physical examinations At least one new patient Can be performed by any FACRRM, an ACRRM approved supervisor or an ME with an ACRRM approved RTO Simon Again I will go through this.
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Troubleshooting. What if things aren’t ‘right’.
DOV not booked in at all? Not the correct structure? Not enough patients? Too ‘easy’ patients? Suggestions for activities if there are insufficient patients • ?Role play cases from your own practice and give the registrar feedback • ?Discuss exam(s) and give tips if you are familiar with the process • ?Do a chart audit - discuss patient management and/or look at the quality of the record keeping • ?Discuss practice management topics e.g. IT, billing Medicare, recall and reminder systems, dealing with conflict, human resource management • ?Discuss current patients that they are concerned about and management strategies • ?Provide the opportunity to debrief on past concerns • ?Visit the local shop if in a remote community and discuss relevant public health issues with the registrar, including the cost of food, its quality and placement • ?Discuss possible ways of improving the public health of the community. Encourage the registrar to consider community relevant activities that could be initiated • ?Discuss the registrar’s career aspirations and their feeling about working in a remote community, if applicable • ?Discuss online resources and systems in clinics
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Questions Simon and Helen
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