1. TGu Agenda Date: 2005-09-19 Authors: September 2005 September 2005
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TGu Agenda
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2. September 2005
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Abstract
Agenda for TGu Interworking with External Networks for September 2005, Garden Grove, Los Angeles, California, USA.
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3. Monday I 19 September 2005, 10:30 – 12:30 Call to Order
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Monday I 19 September 2005, 10:30 – 12:30
Call to Order
Attendance Register
802 registration desk
Sign once per day between
Mark attended sessions in IEEE
Review IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures
Intellectual Property
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

4. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
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IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
6. Patents
IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or
b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002
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5. Patent Committee Ruling – January 6, 2005
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Patent Committee Ruling – January 6, 2005
At the December 2004 meeting of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee (PatCom), Paul Nikolich (Chair, 802) on behalf of Stuart Kerry (Chair, )led discussion on an agenda item titled 'Discussion of P802.11n Protest'. You noted that some members of the P802.11n working group requested a clarification of policy from PatCom regarding what would be acceptable to discuss during a working group technical presentation, regarding patent information/statements. PatCom is charged with providing oversight for the use of patents and patent information in IEEE Standards. PatCom is also charged with reviewing patent information submitted to the IEEE Standards Department to determine conformity with patent procedures and guidelines. As empowered by the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, PatCom has reviewed the information presented and rendered its decision by interpreting the policies and procedures of the IEEE and the IEEE-SA relevant to the issues. In regards to the presentation of information to a standards development group, PatCom has decided the following: 1. After a patent letter of assurance (LoA) has been accepted by PatCom, it is allowable for a presenter to state that an LoA has been filed by a Patent Holder, accepted by PatCom, and listed in the online listing of LoAs at Anyone seeking a copy of the accepted LoA should contact the PatCom Administrator. 2. Discussion of the content of accepted, submitted, or proposed LoAs is prohibited. 3. Discussion of licensing terms and conditions is prohibited.
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6. Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE TG Meetings
Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share
Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions,
contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

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Meeting Etiquette
"Individuals are to address the comments of others only, not the person"
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

8. Monday I (cont.) 19 September 2005, 10:30 – 12:30
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Monday I (cont.) 19 September 2005, 10:30 – 12:30
Minutes
Approval of Minutes of July 2005 meeting
u-tgu-minutes-july-2005-session.doc
Approve Agenda
Ad-hoc Minutes
u-minutes-tgu-ad-hoc-session-in-july-2005.doc
Overview of last TGu meeting
u-closing-report.ppt
Teleconference Minutes
u-minutes-task-group-u-teleconference.doc
u-draft-minutes-task-group-u-teleconference.doc
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

9. Monday I (cont.) 19 September 2005, 10:30 – 12:30
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Monday I (cont.) 19 September 2005, 10:30 – 12:30
Requirements Presentations
TGr requirement (Mike Montemurro)
u-qos-in-wlan-interworking (Hong Cheng)
3GPP (Farooq Bari)
Discussion on TGu requirements from the (Wolfgang Groeting)
Requirement Motions
Proceed with motions in document r3
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

10. Monday II 19 September 2005, 13:30 – 15:30
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Monday II 19 September 2005, 13:30 – 15:30
Requirement Motions
Completion of discussion
Completion of TGu requirements document r??
Merging of TGu documents ready for liaison letter:
Terms and Definitions r8
Scope and Assumptions r7
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

11. Tuesday I 20 September 2005, 13:30 – 15:30
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Tuesday I 20 September 2005, 13:30 – 15:30
Liaison generation
Send r0 to following groups:
3GPP
3GPP2
IETF
GSMA
FMCA ??
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

12. Tuesday II 20 September 2005, 16:00 – 18:00
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Tuesday II 20 September 2005, 16:00 – 18:00
Liaison generation continued
Mid week plenary liaison presentation
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

13. Wednesday 21 September 2005, 16:00 – 18:00
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Wednesday 21 September 2005, 16:00 – 18:00
Downgrade attack protection:
TGu requests that TGw address the requirement of providing protection on beacon elements.
Technical Presentations
FMCA (Rodrigo Donazzolo)
IEEE issues (Vivek Gupta)
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

14. Thursday I 22 September 2005, 08:00 – 10:00
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Thursday I 22 September 2005, 08:00 – 10:00
Down Selection
Draft document – r1
Initial Technical Presentations
r0 Network Selection (E. Hepworth & A. McDonald)
Service Access Context (Mike Moreton)
MIS Control (Hitoshi Morioka)
u u-proposal (Zhonghui Yao)
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor

15. Thursday II 22 September 2005, 10:30 – 12:30
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Thursday II 22 September 2005, 10:30 – 12:30
Teleconference requirements
Timeline document review
u-timeline.ppt
Preparation for November 2005 Plenary Meeting
Call for Proposals ??
Respond to incoming liaisons
Down Selection issues
AOB
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Stephen McCann, Siemens Roke Manor