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LHC Systems Providing Post-Mortem Data
Stephen Jackson Diogo Miguel Louro Alves Manuel Gonzalez Berges Enrico Bravin Marek Gasior Lars Jensen Ana Guerrero Ollacarizqueta Stephane Bart Pedersen Athanasios Topaloudis BI-TB 16/5/2019
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Introduction (recap) Request from LMC and Evian for a “postmortem button” For any reason at any time, be able to record all data usually recorded in postmortem. There should be a way to trigger this from the CCC, or from timing event. Are there drawbacks (acquisition dead-time, limited storage)? The idea is to provide a list of what is easy/difficult, free/expensive to the management Example of use cases: 10 Hz oscillations (BPMs, diamond BLMs, BLMs) What happens at the beginning of the ramp Storing of ADT kick signals (not yet in postmortem) Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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Introduction Task Identify LHC data available from BI systems With the view to acquiring from an on-demand trigger (MTG or soft) Issued by an LHC Operator or another intelligent source Only a few systems with interesting data at the TxT level So extended this presentation to include lower resolution data as well Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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How to Classify Different BI Data?
Number of Monitors Number of Samples Sample Rate Approximate Data Size Maximum Triggering Frequency Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Internal Analysis in FESA class? Accessible via (RDA, SDDS, PM server,…)? Users of the data Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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Main LHC BI Observables
BLM BPM Standard, Interlock & DOROS BBQ BSRT Orbit Feedback BCT F & DC BRASLHC Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BLM 1/5 PostMortemData Number of Monitors ~4’000 Description Post Mortem Buffers Number of Samples (Main data) 25’600 Sample Rate (Main data) 40uS Other Data Last 512 values for running sum 1.31s Data Size 27 x 28Mb = 756 Mb Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 2 minutes Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? No Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users Post-Mortem Analysis Notes Some limitations interacting with XPOC (shares buffers) Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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PostMortemExpertData
BLM 2/5 PostMortemExpertData Number of Monitors ~4’000 Description Complete Post Mortem buffers Number of Samples (Main data) 43’690 Sample Rate (Main data) 40uS Other Data No Data Size 27 x 43Mb = 1.1Gb Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 2 minutes Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? NFS files Users None Notes Some limitations interacting with XPOC (shares buffers) Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BLM 3/5 BeamDumpData1/2 Number of Monitors ~4’100 Description XPOC data Number of Samples (Main data) 200 Sample Rate (Main data) 40uS Other Data No Data Size 27 x 220K = 6Mb Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 2 minutes Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users LBDS Notes Some limitations interacting with PM (shares buffers) Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BLM 4/5 CaptureData (Study)
Number of Monitors ~4’000 Description On demand capture data Number of Samples (Main data) 10’240 (Limited from a possible 43’690) Sample Rate (Main data) 80us Other Data No Data Size 27 x 541K = 14.6Mb Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 2 minutes Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Yes unless being used by IQC Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA and SDDS Users UFO Buster Notes Some limitations interacting with IQC (shares buffers) Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BLM 5/5 CaptureData (IQC)
Number of Monitors ~4’000 Description On demand IQC data Number of Samples (Main data) 512 Sample Rate (Main data) 40us Other Data No Data Size 27 x 10Mb = 270Mb Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 30 seconds Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA and SDDS Users IQC Notes Some limitations interacting with Study (shares buffers) Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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PostMortemData (turn by turn)
BPM 1/4 PostMortemData (turn by turn) Number of Monitors ~1’000 Description Post Mortem buffer (turn by turn) Number of Samples (Main data) 1024 Sample Rate (Main data) Turn Other Data Last 1024 values for average orbit H/V Data Size ? Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 30 seconds Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? No Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users Post-Mortem Analysis Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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PostMortemData (orbit by orbit)
BPM (2/4) PostMortemData (orbit by orbit) Number of Monitors ~1’000 Description Post Mortem buffers (orbit by orbit) Number of Samples (Main data) 1024 Sample Rate (Main data) Orbits (spaced by 40msec) Other Data Last 1024 values for average orbit H/V Data Size ? Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 30 seconds Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? No Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users Post-Mortem Analysis Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BPM (3/4) XpocData Number of Monitors ~1’000 Description XPOC data for LBDS Number of Samples (Main data) 1024 Sample Rate (Main data) Turn Other Data Last 1024 values for average orbit H/V Data Size ? Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 30 seconds Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? No Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users Post-Mortem Analysis Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BPM (4/4) CapturedData Number of Monitors ~1’000 Description Triggered capture data Number of Samples (Main data) 512K Sample Rate (Main data) Bunch by bunch Other Data No Data Size ? Maximum Triggering Frequency Every minute Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA, files Users First turns, optics Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BPM DOROS 1/2 PostMortemData
Number of Monitors ~110 Description PostMortem data arrays. Acquired at 25 Hz in circular buffers covering 2 min before Post-Mortem and 8 sec after. Number of Samples (Main data) 3200 samples per parameter per BPM Sample Rate (Main data) 25 Hz Other Data .rawValP .rawValN .jawPosP .jawPosN .sisPositions .absolutePositions Data Size ( ) x 3200 x 110 = MBytes Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 3 seconds when triggered by timing (TBC) Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes (TBC) Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? No Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users ? Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BPM DOROS 2/2 CaptureData
Number of Monitors ~110 Description On demand capture data: -Orbit & oscillation data Number of Samples (Main data) Oscillation: Orbit: Sample Rate (Main data) 25 Hz Other Data Some configuration & status data Data Size ( ) * * 110 = MBytes for all BPMs Maximum Triggering Frequency No limit (TBC) Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Only decimation Accessible via? RDA ans SDDS (file created from Java application) Users ? Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BPM Interlock (1/5) PostMortemData
Number of Monitors 8 Description Post Mortem Buffers (orbit and turn buffers) Number of Samples (Main data) 4 x 1024 Sample Rate (Main data) Orbit and turn Other Data Raw turn sum buffers Data Size 2 x 160 Kb = 320 Kb Maximum Triggering Frequency ?? Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? No Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users Post-Mortem Analysis (LBDS --> BPMS) Notes Needs to be reset manually Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BPM Interlock (2/5) XpocData
Number of Monitors 8 Description XPOC data Number of Samples (Main data) 1024 Sample Rate (Main data) Turn Other Data Raw XPOC buffers Data Size 8 x 24K = 192K Maximum Triggering Frequency Every 2 minutes Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? No Triggered by Timing Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users LBDS Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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InterlockData (turn by turn)
BPM Interlock (3/5) InterlockData (turn by turn) Number of Monitors 8 Description Interlock Data Number of Samples (Main data) 1024 Sample Rate (Main data) Turn Other Data internal counters (error, alarm, status) Data Size 8 x 30 Kb = 240 Kb Maximum Triggering Frequency ?? Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? ?No Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? No Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users Experts (LBDS --> BPMSINT) Notes The analysis of these data happen in the Expert GUI Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BPM Interlock (4/5) CaptureData
Number of Monitors 8 Description Raw Bunch by Bunch buffers (last 147 turns) Number of Samples (Main data) 147 x 3564 Sample Rate (Main data) 25ns Other Data debug info Data Size 8 x 4 Mb = 32 Mb Maximum Triggering Frequency ?? Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? No Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users Experts (LBDS --> BPMSDiag) Notes The analysis of these data happen in the Expert GUI Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BPM Interlock (5/5) CaptureData
Number of Monitors 8 Description Bunch by Bunch diagnostics (last 147 turns) Number of Samples (Main data) 147 x 3564 Sample Rate (Main data) 25ns Other Data thresholds in ADC and mm Data Size 8 x 4 Mb = 32 Mb Maximum Triggering Frequency ?? Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? No Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users Post-Mortem Analysis (LBDS --> BPMSDiagPos) Notes There is no anaylis implemented yet Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BBQ PostMortemData Number of Monitors 8 Description Post Mortem Buffers (orbit and turn buffers) Number of Samples (Main data) 256K Sample Rate (Main data) Turn Other Data None Data Size ~32 Mb Maximum Triggering Frequency 60 seconds Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? No Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? Accessible via? RDA and PM Server Users PM Notes Raw Oscillation Data Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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Orbit Feedback IqcAcquisition
Number of Monitors ~1’150 * 2 (H/V) Description Last position data from BPMs for IQC Number of Samples (Main data) 1 Sample Rate (Main data) 1 per second Other Data BPM Status info from last second Data Size 74Kb Maximum Triggering Frequency Every second Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? No Accessible via? RDA Users IQC Notes Also on logging DB Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BCT (1/3) - BCTFVFC PostMortemData
Number of Monitors 4 Description Post Mortem buffers Number of Samples (Main data) 15000 Sample Rate (Main data) 11KHz Other Data No Data Size ~120Kb Maximum Triggering Frequency >5s Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Yes Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing or RDA Internal FESA analysis? no Accessible via? RDA and PM Servers Users PM Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BCT (2/3) - BCTFVFC XPocAcquisition
Number of Monitors 4 Description Post Mortem buffers Number of Samples (Main data) 15000 Sample Rate (Main data) 11KHz Other Data No Data Size ~120Kb Maximum Triggering Frequency >5s Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing Internal FESA analysis? no Accessible via? XPOC server Users XPOC Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BCT (3/3) - BCTDCLHC2 PostMortemData
Number of Monitors 4 Description Post Mortem buffers Number of Samples (Main data) 3000 Sample Rate (Main data) 50Hz Other Data No Data Size ~12Kb Maximum Triggering Frequency >5 Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing Internal FESA analysis? no Accessible via? PM Server Users PM Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BRASC PostMortemData Number of Monitors 8 Description Post Mortem buffers Number of Samples (Main data) 3564 Sample Rate (Main data) 40MHz Other Data No Data Size ~30Kb Maximum Triggering Frequency >5 Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing Internal FESA analysis? no Accessible via? PM Server Users PM Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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BRASG PostMortemData Number of Monitors 4 Description Post Mortem buffers Number of Samples (Main data) 10692 Sample Rate (Main data) 40MHz Other Data No Data Size ~90Kb Maximum Triggering Frequency >5 Ad-hoc Triggering Possible? Ad-hoc Triggering Allowed? Triggered by Timing Internal FESA analysis? no Accessible via? PM Server Users PM Notes Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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A Comment “The data is already in logging so not interesting”
Is there not an interest to identify a time of interest and package the same data as an event? The could be used as input to future machine learning ? BRAN, BSRT, … Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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Possible New Data for Run 3
Orbit Feedback system 25 Hz BPM data and status Full frequency BBQ tunes (from all systems) COD+QUAD deflection / status + current requests As much history as you can consume BLM 100 Hz data Already used in several cases (collimation feedback, loss-maps, …) Create a new Capture type (called CAPTURE) Return all 43’690 80us samples Covering seconds STUDY currently covers seconds With new f/w, MBLT means readout will be several times faster BBQ Raw data for 10s of seconds on new MENA25 CPU? Identifying PM-like LHC data available from BI systems – BITB 16/5/2019
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