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1 GIN & the Standards Activity
The HPC Profile WG

2 Where are we now? GIN is 1 year old:
I=Interoperation I=Interoperability Pragmatic operational decisions (Interoperation) Authentication/Authorisation Identity Management Information Services Jobs Submission Data & Files Applications 2

3 The Interoperability Initially a lower priority
Some demonstration with JSDL NGS (GridSAM gateway), NAREGI, CROWN Expanding importance within GIN Feedback to standards group Requirements to software providers for products Early operational experience Effectively ‘closing the loop’ between: Standards, Implementers & deployers 3

4 The state of play in jobs in 2006
JSDL (Job Submission Description Language) Recommended specification Jan 2006 BES (Basic Execution Service) Draft describing job submission API HPCP (High Performance Computing Profile) Pragmatic combination of BES & JSDL Focussed on job submission to HPC clusters 4

5 HPCP Interoperability at SC06
Started as implementation activity Validate specifications Expanded engagement with GIN Software providers engaged with production grids GridSAM, Globus, CREAM/gLite, ChinaGrid, … 5

6 Feedback from SC06 Revised BES & HPCP specifications
Revised Security Support Username/password over SSL X.509 certificates Both WG’s moving to last call Future Work: Data staging 6

7 Further Interaction Main topic of next session Information Systems
Formation of GLUE-WG Standard definition of attributes Rendering into different systems BDII, CIM, UDDI, MDS, … Data Management Activity within GSM WG 7

8 Notes from the discussion

9 Notes from Discussion BES model maps to many different systems
Proxy services using standards ontop of production grids Access to production resources Without need to redeploy production software 9

10 Big Issues - Authentication
Username/password mixed enthusiasm Need delegation & strong authentication Different emphasis in web service world Delegation MUST not be made a blocker to interoperation Pragmatic half-way house needed to go ANYWHERE Migration path from where we are now to Production grids ‘demand’ X.509 Some split between proxy certs and pure certs If not going to use proxy certs. BIG migration issues Enterprise grids ‘demand’ username/password X.509 support varied in toolkits If multiple security profiles implementors (& deployers) will need to support several to ensure interoperability Need to decide Policy as to which deployers support Part of service meta-data Client discovery issue Discussed elsewhere – need report back to GIN AG to send report back to SJN for redistribution to GIN Proposed solution for HPCP – traction elsewhere in OGF & OGSA? Use myProxy as a way of providing delegation. 10

11 Actions GIN participants want to be able to use multiple auth mechanisms: Provide feedback to OGF security actions MyProxy use: Grid for research majority Username/password use: Enterprise & some research grids What constraints come from GIN that need to be made visible to OGF? Security conversion services may be one way forward EL to send to Security Ads for discussion at area meeting. 11

12 Process Interaction GIN  Standards
‘Large fraction of production grids believe that JSDL & BES are a way forward for job submission’ First instance standards compliant service gateways will provide means of accessing production grid resources Expand beyond JSDL & BES 12

13 Deployment of HPCP Deploy ‘permanent’ services for support
GENESIS II, NGS (GridSAM), EGEE, DEISA Commitment to implement HPCP and track changes First phase: deploy SC06 service (now!) Second phase: deploy revised service after HPCP public comment period (~3-6 months) Discussed this week at OGF go out to public comment Code changes needed are small (~few days work) Have a ‘sensible’ security story (revised profile) Third phase: part of native code (In the future – maybe!) GIN ‘leaders’ to forward notifications of specs entering public comment to GIN lists 13

14 Big Issues Data Staging HPCP focussed on core use case Support in JSDL
HPCP has optional data staging support HPCP focussed on core use case Data staging not essential for this use case 14

15 HPCP Profile(s) Core profile: ‘pure’ job submission
First Extension: data staging as important 15

16 Need to discuss SRM Specification 16


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