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PIERRE & FORT PIERRE COMMUNITY MOPTF (MAYORS OUTDOOR POOL TASK FORCE) June 4, 2008
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MOPTF COMMITTEE The mission of the Mayors Outdoor Pool Task Force is to assess the current conditions and demand for an outdoor pool facility in the Citys of Pierre and Fort Pierre, explore options for future development, including one shared outdoor facility, and make recommendations to both municipal governments to guide future outdoor pool investments. REPRESENTING PIERRE REPRESENTING PIERRE ROSS PETERSEN, CHAIRMAN ROSS PETERSEN, CHAIRMAN JUDY WEGNER JUDY WEGNER KENT HUCKINS KENT HUCKINS J.J. LINN J.J. LINN REPRESENTING FORT PIERRE REPRESENTING FORT PIERRE KRISTIE MAHER, VICE - CHAIRMAN KRISTIE MAHER, VICE - CHAIRMAN LINDA BROWN LINDA BROWN KATHY HEISS KATHY HEISS MISTY HOFTIEZER MISTY HOFTIEZER SUPPORT STAFF Leon Schochenmaier, Pierre City Administrator Leon Schochenmaier, Pierre City Administrator Tom Farnsworth, Pierre Parks and Recreation Director Tom Farnsworth, Pierre Parks and Recreation Director David Page, Fort Pierre Finance Officer David Page, Fort Pierre Finance Officer Andy Lueth, Pierre Recreation Superintendent Andy Lueth, Pierre Recreation Superintendent
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WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? PIERRE – OUTDOOR POOL PIERRE – OUTDOOR POOL Deteriorating Bathhouse Deteriorating Bathhouse Gutter System needs to be replaced Gutter System needs to be replaced Bowl of the pool needs to be replaced Bowl of the pool needs to be replaced Continued replacement of decking Continued replacement of decking Yearly Operation and Maintenance cost will continue to increase Yearly Operation and Maintenance cost will continue to increase Liability issues will force closure in 2 to 3 years Liability issues will force closure in 2 to 3 years
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Core Samples - 2002 Hahn Engineering Structural Inspection and Evaluation of Griffin Park Pool (December 27, 2002) Hahn Engineering Opinions & Recommendations: #8 (It is our opinion the pool has far exceeded its functional life. The original concrete has deteriorated to the point of little remaining strength. The gunite layer is not structural and can not adequately support the design loads. It is our opinion the bowl has already failed and removal and/or replacement should be considered.) Note: Algae Present between layers! Note: Difference in concrete aggregate. Core #4 Taken from the NW corner of the Pool.
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GUTTER SYSTEM
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Yearly Operating Expenses & Revenues Pierre PierreExpenses Year Personnel Expenses Capital Outlay Total Year Personnel Expenses Capital Outlay Total 2003 31,678.00 80,017.20 2,173.80 113,869.00 2003 31,678.00 80,017.20 2,173.80 113,869.00 2004 29,968.00 21,431.00 0.0 51,399.00 2004 29,968.00 21,431.00 0.0 51,399.00 2005 27,538.00 21,289.00 1,620.00 50,447.00 2005 27,538.00 21,289.00 1,620.00 50,447.00 2006 29,729.00 15,265.00 0.0 44,994.00 2006 29,729.00 15,265.00 0.0 44,994.00 2007 40,008.80 21,331.00 3,500.00 64,839.80 2007 40,008.80 21,331.00 3,500.00 64,839.80Revenues Year Concessions Swim Fees Total Year Concessions Swim Fees Total 2003 1,914.00 7,157.00 9,071.00 2003 1,914.00 7,157.00 9,071.00 2004 2,288.00 5,223.00 7,511.00 2004 2,288.00 5,223.00 7,511.00 2005 3,036.00 6,580.00 9,616.00 2005 3,036.00 6,580.00 9,616.00 2006 3,866.00 9,442.00 13,308.00 2006 3,866.00 9,442.00 13,308.00 2007 5,991.00 9,047.00 15,038.00 2007 5,991.00 9,047.00 15,038.00 Total Tax Base Support 2003 - $104,797.60 2006 - $31,686.00 2004 - $43,887.90 2007 - $49,781.90 2005 - $40,831.00
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WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? FORT PIERRE – OUTDOOR POOL FORT PIERRE – OUTDOOR POOL Bowl is cracking and will need to be replaced Bowl is cracking and will need to be replaced Leaking significant amount of water Leaking significant amount of water Decking needs to be replaced (significant cost) Decking needs to be replaced (significant cost) Bath House is deteriorating Bath House is deteriorating Pipes under decking need to be replaced (significant cost) Pipes under decking need to be replaced (significant cost) Several of the water jets do not function and need to be repaired Several of the water jets do not function and need to be repaired 4 to 7 years of life left in pool 4 to 7 years of life left in pool
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Major Cracks in Bowl
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Decking Needs to be Replaced
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Yearly Operating Expenses & Revenues Fort Pierre Fort PierreExpenses Year Personnel Expenses Capital Outlay Total Year Personnel Expenses Capital Outlay Total 2003 27,355.20 12,059.00 0.0 39,414.20 2003 27,355.20 12,059.00 0.0 39,414.20 2004 34,227.00 15,026.00 0.0 49,253.00 2004 34,227.00 15,026.00 0.0 49,253.00 2005 31,419.30 17,247.00 0.0 48,666.30 2005 31,419.30 17,247.00 0.0 48,666.30 2006 34,303.10 19,383.00 0.0 53,686.10 2006 34,303.10 19,383.00 0.0 53,686.10 2007 25,745.40 20,298.00 0.0 46,043.40 2007 25,745.40 20,298.00 0.0 46,043.40Revenues Year Concessions Swim Fees Total Year Concessions Swim Fees Total 2003 1,934.10 7,523.20 9,457.30 2003 1,934.10 7,523.20 9,457.30 2004 2,375.90 3,706.50 6,082.50 2004 2,375.90 3,706.50 6,082.50 2005 2,786.70 4,901.20 7,687.90 2005 2,786.70 4,901.20 7,687.90 2006 3,647.60 6,545.70 10,193.20 2006 3,647.60 6,545.70 10,193.20 2007 3,092.60 5,231.60 8,231.60 2007 3,092.60 5,231.60 8,231.60 Total Tax Base Support 2003 - $32,960.10 2006 - $43,493.20 2004 - $43,170.70 2007 - $37,718.80 2005 - $40,977.70
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Total Tax Base Support Pierre & Fort Pierre Year Pierre Fort Pierre Total 2003 $104,797.60 $32,960.10 $137,757.70 2003 $104,797.60 $32,960.10 $137,757.70 2004 $43,887.90 $43,170.70 $87,058.60 2004 $43,887.90 $43,170.70 $87,058.60 2005 $40,831.00 $40,977.70 $81,808.70 2005 $40,831.00 $40,977.70 $81,808.70 2006 $31,686.00 $43,493.20 $75,179.20 2006 $31,686.00 $43,493.20 $75,179.20 2007 $49,781.90 $37,718.80 $87,500.70 2007 $49,781.90 $37,718.80 $87,500.70
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Yearly Attendance Totals Pierre 2005 – 12,134 2006 – 8,643 2007 – 9,549 Fort Pierre 2005 – 5,913 2006 – 8,352 2007 – 4,187
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What are the Options! Option 1 – Do Nothing (Continue to operate both pools as they are currently run!) Option 1 – Do Nothing (Continue to operate both pools as they are currently run!) Pierre Pool expected to operate 2-3 more years then it will close. (Note: Pool is past the point in which patch repairs could be made and the entire pool would have to be replaced) Pierre Pool expected to operate 2-3 more years then it will close. (Note: Pool is past the point in which patch repairs could be made and the entire pool would have to be replaced) Do not replace Outdoor Pool and use Aquatic Center. Do not replace Outdoor Pool and use Aquatic Center. Fort Pierre Pool expected to operate 4-7 more years then it will close unless major repairs are done. (Note: Significant cost for future repairs are needed to keep the pool open.) Fort Pierre Pool expected to operate 4-7 more years then it will close unless major repairs are done. (Note: Significant cost for future repairs are needed to keep the pool open.)
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What are the Options? Option 2 – Replace existing Pools in each community with similar structures. Option 2 – Replace existing Pools in each community with similar structures. Pierre – 2.5 to 3.5 Million Dollar Cost to replace existing pool and bath house with same structure and features. Note: New pool will continue to have same Operation costs.Note: New pool will continue to have same Operation costs. Yearly Debt Service Payment $278,000.00 Yearly Debt Service Payment $278,000.00 Yearly O & M Cost after revenues $50,000.00 Yearly O & M Cost after revenues $50,000.00 Yearly Tax Base Support $328,000.00 Yearly Tax Base Support $328,000.00 Fort Pierre – 1.5 to 2.5 Million Dollar Cost to replace existing pool and bath house with same structure and features. Note: New pool will continue to have same Operation costs.Note: New pool will continue to have same Operation costs. Yearly Debt Service Payment $198,000.00 Yearly Debt Service Payment $198,000.00 Yearly O & M cost after revenues $45,000.00 Yearly O & M cost after revenues $45,000.00 Yearly Tax Base Support $243,000.00 Yearly Tax Base Support $243,000.00 Total costs to replace both pools is $4-6 million with no new pool amenities. Total costs to replace both pools is $4-6 million with no new pool amenities. Note: Debt Service based on 5% interest X 20 yrs
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Option 2A Option 2A – Repair pools so they can continue to operate. Option 2A – Repair pools so they can continue to operate. Pierre – not an option for the Pierre Outdoor Pool. The pool is past the point of patch repairs. The entire pool will need to be replaced. Pierre – not an option for the Pierre Outdoor Pool. The pool is past the point of patch repairs. The entire pool will need to be replaced. Fort Pierre – Minimum repairs could be done for the next 5-7 yrs and then the pool would have to be replaced or the following would need to be done in order to keep the pool open any years after that time. The following would need to be addressed. Fort Pierre – Minimum repairs could be done for the next 5-7 yrs and then the pool would have to be replaced or the following would need to be done in order to keep the pool open any years after that time. The following would need to be addressed. Replace Decking and Find Leak in PipingReplace Decking and Find Leak in Piping Several of the water jets do not function andSeveral of the water jets do not function and would need to be repaired. would need to be repaired. Bath House is not accessible and is poorly laidBath House is not accessible and is poorly laid out with differences in elevation in the excess of ADAG. out with differences in elevation in the excess of ADAG. If significant repairs are done to the decking the diving boardsIf significant repairs are done to the decking the diving boards may have to be removed. may have to be removed. Chemical Room would have to be replacedChemical Room would have to be replaced
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What are the Options? Option 3 – Build One Community Family Outdoor Aquatic Facility. Option 3 – Build One Community Family Outdoor Aquatic Facility. Bring both communities together to build one facility. Bring both communities together to build one facility. Find general location to accommodate both communities. Find general location to accommodate both communities. SD Communities that have built Family Outdoor Aquatic Facilities or will be building Facilities in the future. SD Communities that have built Family Outdoor Aquatic Facilities or will be building Facilities in the future. BrookingsMadison BrookingsMadison WatertownSpearfish WatertownSpearfish Mitchell Sioux Falls Mitchell Sioux Falls Aberdeen Aberdeen Each community saw an increase in attendance by 300% Each community saw an increase in attendance by 300% In Cities with family outdoor aquatic facilities, operational costs are nearly covered by revenues. In Cities with family outdoor aquatic facilities, operational costs are nearly covered by revenues.
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Option 3 – Cont. What is a Family Outdoor Aquatic Facility? New trend in Outdoor Aquatics New trend in Outdoor Aquatics Include zero depth entrance with play structures Include zero depth entrance with play structures Include water slides, drop slides, and lazy rivers Include water slides, drop slides, and lazy rivers Include expanded concessions Include expanded concessions Include lap pool for lessons and competitions Include lap pool for lessons and competitions Includes every amenity as a Water Park for half the cost. Includes every amenity as a Water Park for half the cost. Attract a wider demographic compared to the 50 year old pool style. Attract a wider demographic compared to the 50 year old pool style.
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Brookings
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Mitchell
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Aberdeen
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Membership Comparison Brookings 2005 – 534 2006 – 1,845 2007 – 1,963 Mitchell 2005 – 300 2006 – 1,000 2007 – 952 Watertown 2005 – 398 2006 – 1,188 2007 – 1,198 Aberdeen 2005 – 603 (2 pools) 2007 – 1,152 (only open for 67 days)
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Daily Admissions Brookings 2005 – 16,251 2006 – 20,770 2007 – 18,878 Mitchell 2004 – 4,118 2006 – 11,783 2007 – 9,698 Watertown 2004 – 6,544 2006 – 17,443 2007 – 17,143 Aberdeen 2005 – 11,241 2006 – 0 (Closed) 2007 – 28,874
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Yearly Attendance Totals Brookings 2005 – 32,405 2006 – 75,000 2007 – 73,450 Mitchell 2004 – 18,000 2006 – 54,000 2007 – 53,220 Watertown 2004 – 17,476 2006 – 64,352 2007 – 65,356 Aberdeen 2005 – 27,251 2006 – 0 (Closed) 2007 – 54,666
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Five Potential Sites Evaluated in Pierre to Locate a New Pool Concentric Circles are 660 feet (1/8 mile) apart
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Pros and Cons of Pierre Potential Sites P1 – Steamboat Park – Pros – 5.5 acres, good visibility & access, near bike trail, City owned, draw tourists, visible to both Cities & central location for both Cities, good parking, near Chamber, Discovery Center and hotels. Cons – removes green space, lots of trees, low water table, may need to close Dakota avenue off bridge. P1 – Steamboat Park – Pros – 5.5 acres, good visibility & access, near bike trail, City owned, draw tourists, visible to both Cities & central location for both Cities, good parking, near Chamber, Discovery Center and hotels. Cons – removes green space, lots of trees, low water table, may need to close Dakota avenue off bridge. P2 – West of Ramkota Inn – Pros – City owned, visible from both Cities & centrally located for both Cities, near hotels, on bike trail, Cons – Congested parking, access to Highway poor, smaller than Steamboat, lots of trees, removes green space. P2 – West of Ramkota Inn – Pros – City owned, visible from both Cities & centrally located for both Cities, near hotels, on bike trail, Cons – Congested parking, access to Highway poor, smaller than Steamboat, lots of trees, removes green space. P3 – Skateboard Park – Pros – City owned, near trails, walking distance for Boys and Girls Club, near other recreation. Cons – relocate skatepark & safety town, off major thorough fair, not visible or centrally located for Ft. Pierre, limited parking, lose green space to parking. P3 – Skateboard Park – Pros – City owned, near trails, walking distance for Boys and Girls Club, near other recreation. Cons – relocate skatepark & safety town, off major thorough fair, not visible or centrally located for Ft. Pierre, limited parking, lose green space to parking. P4 – West of Griffin Park – Pros - City owned, on trail, near other recreation. Cons – Removes green space, no parking, reduces residential visibility to river, limited space. P4 – West of Griffin Park – Pros - City owned, on trail, near other recreation. Cons – Removes green space, no parking, reduces residential visibility to river, limited space. P5 – Garfield & 4 th Street – Pros – Near shopping, no water table issue. Cons – hills, private land, not central location, far from hotels, no other recreation nearby, P5 – Garfield & 4 th Street – Pros – Near shopping, no water table issue. Cons – hills, private land, not central location, far from hotels, no other recreation nearby,
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Six Potential Sites Evaluated in Ft. Pierre to Locate a New Pool (sites are shaded in blue – circles are ¼ mile apart)
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Pros & Cons of Ft. Pierre Potential Sites FP 1 – Existing Pool Site - Pros – Can see from Highway 83, adjacent to CYI-School. Cons – Lack of parking. FP 1 – Existing Pool Site - Pros – Can see from Highway 83, adjacent to CYI-School. Cons – Lack of parking. FP 2 – Marina Drive US CORP buy out land – Pros – Can be seen from main highway, only have to buy one house out. Land vacancy. FP 2 – Marina Drive US CORP buy out land – Pros – Can be seen from main highway, only have to buy one house out. Land vacancy. Cons – CORP owns property (may be gifted), high traffic in residential, compete with boat traffic. Cons – CORP owns property (may be gifted), high traffic in residential, compete with boat traffic. FP 3 – South of Teton Island - Pros – Good access. FP 3 – South of Teton Island - Pros – Good access. Cons – Expensive, high traffic, commercial parking. Cons – Expensive, high traffic, commercial parking. FP 4 – Schimkat Property - Pros – Visible, access, on trail. FP 4 – Schimkat Property - Pros – Visible, access, on trail. Cons – High water table, Very expensive land. Cons – High water table, Very expensive land. FP 5 – Vacant Property North of Town - Pros – County land, good visibility from dam, land in great shape. FP 5 – Vacant Property North of Town - Pros – County land, good visibility from dam, land in great shape. Cons – County land, isolated, large distance for kids to travel. Cons – County land, isolated, large distance for kids to travel. FP 6 – City Park Block North of Town - Pros – City owned, flat ground, good access, by Wakpa SIca, on trail, near golf course. FP 6 – City Park Block North of Town - Pros – City owned, flat ground, good access, by Wakpa SIca, on trail, near golf course. Cons – large distance from both cities. Cons – large distance from both cities.
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Please Give Us Your Comments Your comments on the information presented, various options, locations, etc. will assist the Task Force in developing a recommendation to be delivered to both City Commissions this fall. Your comments on the information presented, various options, locations, etc. will assist the Task Force in developing a recommendation to be delivered to both City Commissions this fall. To comment go to www.ci.pierre.sd.us or www.fortpierre.com/Parks.aspx You may also contact any of the Task Force members. To comment go to www.ci.pierre.sd.us or www.fortpierre.com/Parks.aspx You may also contact any of the Task Force members.www.ci.pierre.sd.us www.fortpierre.com/Parks.aspxwww.ci.pierre.sd.us www.fortpierre.com/Parks.aspx Thank you for helping shape the future of Outdoor Pools in Fort Pierre and Pierre. Thank you for helping shape the future of Outdoor Pools in Fort Pierre and Pierre.
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