1. CAS Joint Forum Wednesday 15 October 2014

2. TimeItemSpeaker 10.05 1. Welcome + introduction Phil Mawhinney, CAS 10.15 2. ‘CASk the cabinet, Southwark Council Cllr Dora Dixon-Fyle MBE Cllr Victoria Mills 11.00 3. CAS Development support + Healthwatch Southwark updates Graham Collins, CAS Chitra De Caires, HWS 11.10 Tea + coffee 11.20 4. Commissioning update Mark Taylor, Southwark Council 11.40 5. Influencing council budget 2015/16 Phil Mawhinney, CAS 12.05 6. Project showcase: Wheels for Wellbeing Valerie Oldfield, WfW 12.15 7. Information exchange + networking All 12.25 Thanks + close Phil Mawhinney, CAS

4. 5. Influencing the Council Budget 2015/16 impact on the sector What can we do?

5. Over 7 years, spending power will reduce by 43%. 10% cut in 15/16. (Also in 16/17 and 17/18. ) Could be even more, e.g.15%. 1. Scale of cuts

6. Cllr Ian Wingfield Cabinet Member for Communities, Employment & Business – Over 66% of general fund is on Adults & Children’s Services. This has so far been protected but will see more cuts in 2015/16.’ = bigger impact on VCS in 15/16 2. Bigger impact on VCS than up to now Council officers ‘Low-hanging fruit has been cut.’ ‘There will be no more emergency rescues.’ CAS perspective Willing to be (constructively) critical of council. BUT accept that scale of cuts (central gov.) is largely unavoidable. No point in wholesale opposition to cuts.

7. 3. So what can we do? Approach Constructive, making the concrete case for the sector. Showing how we prevent needs getting worse + reduce pressure on the system. Focus on 15/16 budget (but also consider longer-term) When Asap! Draft budget by Nov/Dec. Influence council at November Council Assembly. How Collect evidence of why VCS worth investing in. We need harder evidence, including costs – what do VCOs spend + what does this save? Join us CAS can lead but we need your examples (anonymous) to make case for the sector. (We want 30 orgs as examples.)

8. 4. The prevention case for a VCO 1. Tell us about your service  What local problem are you trying to solve?  Briefly describe your service/project.  How many beneficiaries do you have?  What outcomes do you achieve for service users? 2. Tell us the rough costs of your service  Roughly, what is the cost of your service?  E.g. per service user, per year 3. What does this save the public sector?  What public services does your work prevent from being needed, or reduce pressure on?  E.g. hospital care, prisons, mental health, social care.  How much does these relevant public sector services cost?

9. 5. Example of the prevention case 1. The service The service supports young people (YP) with autism, helping them gain higher levels of independence. A high % of YP who use the service then go into further education or work. 2. Rough cost of the service £13k per young person, per year. Includes overheads, staff costs etc. 3. What does this save the public sector? Hospital, special education + social care support for YP with autism = £24k per year. 4. The case for the service It helps YP with autism maintain better health and have a higher chance of being in work or further education. YP are less likely to need NHS care, social care or special education. Maintaining this service means less need for these expensive public services. Loss of the service would mean extra demand on expensive public services, now and in future when YP are adults.

10. 6. Next steps 1.Have a go at putting together some information now, using handouts. 2.Send in additional info in next couple of days. 3.CAS pulls together case studies. Will anonymise and check with you before using. 4.Delegation to Council Assembly, November – CAS and VCS Reps 5.Make contact with our Development team to plan for cuts or support looking for funding elsewhere (We know it’s not all about the council.)