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SUBJECT CHOICE FOR LEAVING CERT 2012 St Mogues College This Information is intended for the use of parents and students of St. Mogues College only
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Core Subjects In this school you must take: In this school you must take: Irish (unless exempt) Irish (unless exempt) English English Mathematics Mathematics That leaves you with a choice of four other subjects from the following list That leaves you with a choice of four other subjects from the following list
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How Do You Choose? To choose the rest of your subjects first read through the information on the following pages. To choose the rest of your subjects first read through the information on the following pages. Pay particular attention to the information on LCVP, on why you should do it and what subjects combinations you need. Pay particular attention to the information on LCVP, on why you should do it and what subjects combinations you need. Carefully read the information on colleges and courses that require French or Science subjects. Carefully read the information on colleges and courses that require French or Science subjects.
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How Do You Choose Cont’d? Consider what subjects you are good at? Consider what subjects you are good at? What courses or careers are you interested in after you do your Leaving Cert? What courses or careers are you interested in after you do your Leaving Cert? What subjects do you need to get into those courses or careers? What subjects do you need to get into those courses or careers? What subjects would be useful if not necessary for such courses and careers? What subjects would be useful if not necessary for such courses and careers? What subjects do you like? What subjects do you like? Use the Scoring Sheets for each Option. Use the Scoring Sheets for each Option. Now choose one subject from each Option. Now choose one subject from each Option.
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The Four Options 1,2,3,4 Choose just one subject from each Option Choose just one subject from each Option Group A:Agricultural Science or French Group A:Agricultural Science or French Group B:Biology or Geography or Physics & Chemistry Group B:Biology or Geography or Physics & Chemistry Group C:Business or Construction Studies Group C:Business or Construction Studies Group D:Design & Communications Graphics or History or Home Economics Group D:Design & Communications Graphics or History or Home Economics
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LEAVING CERTIFICATE SUBJECT CHOICE Preliminary Choice Group A: (Ag. Science/French) ___________________ Group B: (Biology/Phys+Chem/Geog.) Group B: (Biology/Phys+Chem/Geog.)___________________ ___________________ Group C: (Bus/ Const. St.)___________________ Group D: ( Design CG/History/Home Ec.)___________________ Signed:__________________Date:___________ (Students Name) The completed form should be given to the Principal not later than Friday 23rd April 2010
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Do I Need to Take French in My Leaving Cert I want to go to University College Dublin(UCD), University College Cork(UCC), NUI Galway, NUI Maynooth, Pontifical University Maynooth, Royal College of Surgeons, Shannon College of Hotel Management. I want to go to University College Dublin(UCD), University College Cork(UCC), NUI Galway, NUI Maynooth, Pontifical University Maynooth, Royal College of Surgeons, Shannon College of Hotel Management. I want to do a course that requires French. I want to do a course that requires French. I want to join the Cadets I want to join the Cadets
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What Can I Do Without French French is not required for entry to: French is not required for entry to: Nursing Nursing DCU, Trinity College, University of Limerick, Primary Teacher Training DCU, Trinity College, University of Limerick, Primary Teacher Training The Institutes of Technology e.g. Sligo The Institutes of Technology e.g. Sligo Most Engineering, Agriculture, Science or Actuarial Courses in NUI Galway, NUI Maynooth, UCC and UCD (See Exceptions) Most Engineering, Agriculture, Science or Actuarial Courses in NUI Galway, NUI Maynooth, UCC and UCD (See Exceptions) A pass in Polish, Lithuanian etc., at Leaving Cert can be substituted for French A pass in Polish, Lithuanian etc., at Leaving Cert can be substituted for French
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Do I need a Science Subject I want to do a course that requires a science subject (Engineering, Nursing, Forensics etc.,) I want to do a course that requires a science subject (Engineering, Nursing, Forensics etc.,) I want to do Science at College I want to do Science at College I want to train as a primary teacher in the U.K. I want to train as a primary teacher in the U.K. I want to do Beauty Therapy etc., in Cavan Institute I want to do Beauty Therapy etc., in Cavan Institute There is a growing scarcity of qualified scientists There is a growing scarcity of qualified scientists
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Why should I do LCVP? The Leaving Cert Vocational Programme (LCVP) provides: The Leaving Cert Vocational Programme (LCVP) provides: Enterprise Education Enterprise Education Careers Education Careers Education Work Experience Work Experience Interview Skills Interview Skills Can be substituted for points instead of your subject with the lowest grade. Can be substituted for points instead of your subject with the lowest grade.
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What do I need for LCVP? For Leaving Cert Vocational Programme (LCVP) you need: For Leaving Cert Vocational Programme (LCVP) you need: At least 5 Leaving Cert subjects including Irish. At least 5 Leaving Cert subjects including Irish. Two subjects from a list of Vocational Subject Optionings (VSG’s). Two subjects from a list of Vocational Subject Optionings (VSG’s). Study either French or ab initio French or Spanish to Leaving Cert. Study either French or ab initio French or Spanish to Leaving Cert.
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Vocational Subject Groupings 2009/2010 1 Biology or Business or Construction Studies or Design & Communication Graphics or Home Economics andAgricultural Science 2Physics & ChemistryandBiology 3 Business or Construction Studies and Design & Communication Graphics 4Biology or BusinessandHome Economics
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Science Subjects AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE –pplies Biology, Physics & Chemistry to agriculture. – Applies Biology, Physics & Chemistry to agriculture. –Very good for careers in agriculture and science. BIOLOGY BIOLOGY –Science of living things. –Very good for careers in science, sport, nursing, hairdressing and beauty care. PHYSICS & CHEMISTRY PHYSICS & CHEMISTRY –Science of chemicals, materials, heat, light, electricity and motion. –Very good for science, engineering, practical careers and apprenticeships e.g. fitting, plumbing and electrical etc.,
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Technology Subjects CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION –Follows on from Materials Technology wood. –Deals with all aspects of construction, building design and building theory and regulations. –Very good for all Construction, Engineering, Design, practical careers and apprenticeships. DESIGN & COMMUNICATION GRAPHICS DESIGN & COMMUNICATION GRAPHICS –Used to be known as Technical Drawing. –Follows on from Technical Graphics. –Very good for all Construction, Engineering, Design, practical careers and apprenticeships.
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Business, Geography, History, Home Economics Follow on from the Junior Courses of the same names very good for social, personal and academic development Follow on from the Junior Courses of the same names very good for social, personal and academic development Business: very good for all business careers and self-employed. Business: very good for all business careers and self-employed. History & Geography: very good for all careers in social, travel, tourism, international trading, communications, policy-making or teaching. History & Geography: very good for all careers in social, travel, tourism, international trading, communications, policy-making or teaching. Home Economics: very good subject for any career in food, hotel, catering, travel, tourism, social work, nursing or caring areas. Home Economics: very good subject for any career in food, hotel, catering, travel, tourism, social work, nursing or caring areas.
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Seven Things That Are Not Relevant to Subject Selection Only swots and licks do that subject. Only swots and licks do that subject. Only girls/boys do that subject. Only girls/boys do that subject. None of my friends are doing that subject. None of my friends are doing that subject. I don’t like the teacher. I don’t like the teacher. I will do it because it’s a doss. I will do it because it’s a doss. I hate the subject but I’ll do it anyway in case I want to do a course I might need it for. I hate the subject but I’ll do it anyway in case I want to do a course I might need it for. If I don’t do it for the Leaving Cert. then I won’t be able to do any course that it is part of at college. If I don’t do it for the Leaving Cert. then I won’t be able to do any course that it is part of at college.
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Points & Courses There are over 3,000 courses available at Third Level, 1,335 in the CAO system and 1,871 in Further Education There are over 3,000 courses available at Third Level, 1,335 in the CAO system and 1,871 in Further Education Here are a small sample of the best known CAO courses Here are a small sample of the best known CAO courses Over 40% of all courses had points requirements of less than 300 in 20098 Over 40% of all courses had points requirements of less than 300 in 20098 For a full listing of every Third Level and Further Education course in Ireland log onto www.qualifax.ie For a full listing of every Third Level and Further Education course in Ireland log onto www.qualifax.ie www.qualifax.ie For more information on careers log onto www.careersportal.ie For more information on careers log onto www.careersportal.ie www.careersportal.ie
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Sample Points & Courses 2009 CourseCourse ProviderQualificationPoints
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For a full listing of every Third Level and Further Education course in Ireland log onto www.qualifax.iewww.qualifax.ie For more information on careers log onto www.careersportal.iewww.careersportal.ie
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% Band LC Grades Higher Level Points Ordinary Level Points Bonus* 90 -100 A11006040 85 - 89 A2905035 80 - 84 B1854530 75 - 79 B2804025 70 - 74 B3753520 65 - 69 C1703015 60 - 64 C2652510 55 - 59 C360205 50 - 54 D15515 *Higher Maths in UL 45 - 49 D25010 40 - 44 D3455 LCVPDistinctionMeritPass 70 points 50 points 30 points
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Important Information All the information given on subject requirements is the most up to date available at this time (April 2010) and is based on www.qualifax.ie All the information given on subject requirements is the most up to date available at this time (April 2010) and is based on www.qualifax.iewww.qualifax.ie The information given on LCVP subject requirements is the most up to date available at this time (April 2010) and is based on DESC Circular 13/2009 The information given on LCVP subject requirements is the most up to date available at this time (April 2010) and is based on DESC Circular 13/2009
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Exceptions Specific Subject Required CodeCourseCollege Specific Subject CK405GeneticsUCC HC3 in Biology TR056 Human Health & Disease Trinity HC3 in Biology & HC3 in Physics & Chemistry 3 rd Language Required DN096 Science - Health & performance UCD DN037 Science – Biomedical, Health & Life UCD GY 304 B.Sc. in Biotechnology NUIG
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