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Teaching Evidence-Based Medicine Gary S Gronseth, MD, FAAN Professor of Neurology University of Kansas
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy –Understand two sources of error –Love the 2 x 2 table Emphasize Evidence never enough –Apply to your patient –Incorporate patient values
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A case… A 58 year-old right-handed man suddenly developed problems speaking, right lower facial weakness and right hand clumsiness. His symptoms slowly resolved over a week. He had a history of controlled HTN and no other risk factors. Head MRI: small left frontal infarct. EKG: sinus rhythm. MRA: no cranial artery stenosis. Echocardiogram: PFO
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The Physician’s Dilemma To Close or Not to Close Even if the answer is unknown, a decision must be made!
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Clinical Reasoning Close PFO? “Where I trained”
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable Clinical Reasoning Close PFO?
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Deceitful
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“Closure of PFO in patients with cryptogenic ischemic stroke is the standard of care in the community.” “The consequences of a second stroke are potentially devastating. PFO closure is mandatory.”
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Fallacious Irrelevant Rhetoric Psychological appeal Emotion-Driven Persuasion
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Patient Intervention Co-intervention Outcome Determining relevance: Define the question
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For patients with cryptogenic stroke and PFO does PFO closure vs no PFO closure reduce the risk of the next stroke Determining relevance: Define the question
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Popular Appeal “Closure of PFO in patients with cryptogenic ischemic stroke is the standard of care in the community.”
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Begging the Question “The consequences of a second stroke are potentially devastating. PFO closure is mandatory.”
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Irrelevant Outcomes I’ll be sued. I’ll be reimbursed
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Deceitful Fallacious
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable Deceit Close PFO? Fallacy
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Deceitful Fallacious Reasoned
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Relevant Logical appeal Data-Driven Truth
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Principles Close PFO? Evidence Judgment
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Principles Decision
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Deductive Inference From Principles The left side of the brain controls the right side of the body My patient can’t control the right side of his body My patient has a problem with the left side of his brain
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Principles Use a Parachute?
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Principles Close PFO?
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PFO Fibrous adhesions fail to seal the atrial septum after birth Persistence of a potential shunt between the right and left atria of the heart
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PFO might allow paradoxical embolism Small emboli normally filtered by lung without clinically important consequence In patients with PFO, emboli can travel to the brain and cause ischemic stroke Closing the PFO will prevent future strokes
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Principles Close PFO?
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Reasoned Relevant Reason Logical appeal Data-Driven Truth Deduction (Principles)
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Principles Close PFO? Evidence
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Bob had a stroke and PFO and wasn’t treated with closure, he had another stroke Jane has a stroke and PFO. We should treat her with closure to prevent another stroke. John had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, he didn’t have another stroke. Sue had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, she didn’t have another stroke. Analogy and Inductive Inference
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Evidence What happened to patients?
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Principles Close PFO? Evidence
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Reasoned Relevant Reason Logical appeal Data-Driven Truth Induction (Evidence) Deduction (Principles)
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Principles Close PFO? Evidence Judgment Best Guess Opinion Hypothesis
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Reasoned Relevant Reason Logical appeal Data-Driven Truth Intuition (Judgment) Induction (Evidence) Deduction (Principles)
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Distinguishing Opinion from Principles Is there equipoise? –Do reasonable people disagree? –Would an IRB approve a trial? –Is there an ongoing trial? Evidence separates judgment from principles Principles Close PFO? Evidence Judgment
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Theory Scientific Method Experiment Hypothesis
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Principles Close PFO? Evidence Judgment
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy Strong Weak
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Jane has a stroke and PFO. We should treat her with closure to prevent another stroke. John had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, he didn’t have another stroke. Strong Weak Sue had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, she didn’t have another stroke. Bob had a stroke and PFO and wasn’t treated with closure, he had another stroke
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Inferences from Evidence… Are not valid or invalid Are never certain Strong Weak
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Jane has a stroke and PFO. We should treat her with closure to prevent another stroke. John had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, he didn’t have another stroke. Strong Weak Sue had a stroke and PFO and was treated with closure, she didn’t have another stroke. Bob had a stroke and PFO and wasn’t treated with closure, he had another stroke Informally recalled cases Why is this a weak inference?
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Inferences from informally recalled cases can mislead Too few cases Selective recall: remember those –That are more recent –With extreme results –That support our pre-conceptions Experts are not immune to these limitations
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy –Understand two sources of error
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Often too few cases Selective recall: remember those –That are more recent –With extreme results –That support our pre- conceptions Two Sources of Error Systematic Bias Random Chance
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Find More Cases Retrospective Observational Sudy 2002 to 2010 Of all Stroke and PFO Cases: 319
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Rats… I’m going to have to start counting these cases
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy –Understand two sources of error –Love the 2 x 2 table
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Relationships between variables PFO Closure and Stroke
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2 X 2 Table Outcome TreatmentNo stroke StrokeAll Closure167 No Closure152 Total23980319
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Expected if No Relationship Outcome TreatmentNo stroke StrokeAll Closure12542167 No Closure11438152 Total23980319
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Expected if no Realtionship Outcome TreatmentNo stroke StrokeAll Closure75%25%100% No Closure75%25%100% Total75%25%100%
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“Actual” Outcome TreatmentNo stroke StrokeAll Closure15017167 No Closure8963152 Total23980319
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“Actual” Outcome TreatmentNo stroke StrokeAll Closure90%10%100% No Closure59%41%100% Total75%25%100%
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2 X 2 Table Outcome TreatmentNo stroke StrokeAll Closureab167 No Closurecd152 Total23980319
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Relative Risk stroke = b/(a+b) d/(c+d) Risk difference stroke = b/(a+b) - d/(c+d) Measures of Association Outcome TreatmentNo stroke StrokeAll Closureab167 No Closurecd152 Total23980319
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Measure of Association Relative Risk Stroke Outcome Outcome TreatmentNo stroke Stroke Closure90%10% No Closure59%41% RR Stroke 10/41 = 0.24
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Cryptogenic stroke patients receiving Closure were 0.24 times less likely to have stroke. Therefore, I should offer my patients with stroke and PFO Closure.
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy –Understand two sources of error –Love the 2 x 2 table
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Random (Sampling) Error --Incorrect result from bad luck Equally likely to be too high or too low Statistical power/precision --Measured by: P-values (p < 0.001) Confidence intervals RR 0.24: (95% confidence intervals 0.15 to 0.40)
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Systematic Error Incorrect results from poor study design or execution More likely to be too high or too low Risk of Bias Measured: Semi-quantitatively Class of Evidence 0.50.7511.251.50.25 Truth Measured
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Our Study +Cl -Cl Stroke No Stroke Patients not receiving Closure were more often older, diabetic and hypertensive Sometimes had to “guess” the outcome from the record.
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Major Sources of Bias +Cl -Cl Poor Good Confounding Misclassification
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Lower Risk of Bias The Randomized Masked Trial +Cl -Cl Poor Good R
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Randomized Masked Trial Single Case Report What is the risk of Bias? Strong Weak
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Find the best evidence Search online databases MEDLINE
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There is insufficient evidence to support or refute the benefit or lack of harm of PFO closure. Conclusion Strong Weak
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Despite the weak evidence, a decision must be made. Decide Strong Weak
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy –Understand two sources of error –Love the 2 x 2 table Emphasize Evidence never enough –Apply to your patient –Incorporate patient values Principles Close PFO? Evidence Judgment
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Induction is never certain Often the evidence is weak Even when strong, the Evidence never perfectly applies to your patient Explicitly consider how well the evidence applies to your patient
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Incorporating patient values BenefitsRisks Uncertainty
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Know what is not Known If you fail to acknowledge the uncertainty and tell the patient we know that the PFO should or should not be closed… You have failed to distinguish opinion from principles. Principles Close PFO Evidence Judgment
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To Teach EBM… Explicitly Reason –Exclude the unreasonable –Distinguish opinion from principles Rate Evidence on a Hierarchy –Understand two sources of error –Love the 2 x 2 table Emphasize Evidence never enough –Apply to your patient –Incorporate patient values Principles Decision Evidence Judgment
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