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1 PA -anterior side BEST SEEN AP -posterior side BEST SEEN Ribs 2010- pt 2 VERSION 2 POSITIOINING TEXT VERSION - PHOTOS HAVE BEEN REMOVED TO MAKE PRESENTATION SMALLER
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2 CLAVICLE AP LT CLAVICLE - UPRIGHT AXIAL LT CLAVICLE- UPRIGHT AP RT CLAVICLE - SUPINE AXIAL RT CLAVICLE- SUPINE A/C JOINTS A/C JTS – (BILATERAL) W/O WTS A/C JTS – (BILATERAL) WITH WTS LT - A/C JTS - W/O WTS LT - A/C JTS – WITH WTS SHOULDER (UPRIGHT OR SUPINE) NON- TRAUMA AP RT SHOULDER – INT ROT AP RT SHOULDER – EXT ROT LT SHOULDER – GRASHEY TRAUMA AP RT SHOULDER – NEUTRAL ROT LT SHOULDER – TRANSTHORACIC LAT RT SHOULDER – SCAPULAR Y SCAPULA (UPRIGHT OR SUPINE) AP, LAT – RT SCAPULA RIBS – (UPRIGHT OR SUPINE) UNILATERAL: AP (RT) UPPER & LOWER RIBS PA (RT) UPPER & LOWER RIBS OBLIQUE – FOR (RT) AXILLARY UPPER RIBS OBLIQUE – FOR (RT) AXILLARY LOWER RIBS OBLIQUE – FOR (RT) POSTERIOR UPPER RIBS (articulation to spine) OBLIQUE – FOR (RT) POSTERIOR LOWER RIBS (articulation to spine) BILATERAL: AP BILATERAL UPPER RIBS AP BILATERAL LOWER RIBS PA BILATERAL UPPER RIBS PA BILATERAL LOWER RIBS RPO - BILATERAL UPPER RIBS RPO BILATERAL LOWER RIBS LPO - BILATERAL UPPER RIBS LPO BILATERAL LOWER RIBS STERNUM RAO/LAO Lateral Upright/ Supine / X-table
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4 RIBS (Projections & Positions) AP OBLIQUES LPO RPO (May also include PA CHEST for lungs) PA OBLIQUES RAO LAO Exam done : UNILATERAL or BILATERAL AD (above diaphram) & BD – (below diaphram)
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5 BEST SEEN - RIBS AP - posterior ribs (AD/BD) PA - anterior ribs (AD/BD) OBLIQUES – RAO / LPO : LT axillary ribs + RT post rib art w/spine – LAO / RPO RT axillary ribs + LT post rib art w/spine
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6 UNIT 3 RT 122 TECHNIQUE CONSIDERATION RIBS : UNILATERAL OR BILATERAL SHORT SCALE CONTRAST NEEDED BONY DETAIL AD – above diaphram – 60 – 70 KVP – INSPIRATION BD – below diaphram – 70 KVP + 3-4 x more mAs (ABD) EXPIRATION
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7 Routine: Bilateral RIBS AP or PA OBLIQUES LPO (RAO) RPO (LAO) (May also include PA CHEST for lungs) ↑ kVp for lungs (90-120)vs kVp bony ribs (60-80) Must include : BOTH sides (RT & LT) TOP & Bottom (AD & BD)
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8 PA for Chest or Bilat RIBS (AD)
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9 BILAT – AD (upright) 14 x 17 LW CW Centering – same as CXR MSP + T 7
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10 (AP) BILATERAL - AD
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11 Deep Inspiration Why?
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12 INSPIRATION vs EXPIRATION
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13 Why do AP vs PA projection? PA AP
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14 BILAT (BD) 11X14 CW OR 14 x 17 CW Centering – (similar to upper ABD) MSP + L-1 (Bend of Rib) Top of light 1 – 2 “ above xyphoid Bottom of light 1 – 2 “ below IC
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15 BILAT (BD) 11X14 CW OR 14 x 17 CW
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16 OR Upright
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17 SUPINE AP BILATERAL RIBS AD BD
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18 AD – INSP BD - EXP
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19 BILATERAL RIBS AP AD & BD Same pt - routine AD 14 x 17 LW 14 x 17 CW Centering – (similar to upper ABD) MSP + L-1 (Bend of Rib) Top of light 1 – 2 “ above xyphoid Bottom of light 1 – 2 “ below IC
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20 AD – INSP BD - EXP
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21 BILAT – OBLIQUES – (AD) RPO LPO CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side up) or ~ 2” lat to MSP (side up) & T7 (AD) 14x17 (LW or CW)
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22 RPO LPO
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23 RPO LPO RT AXILLARY RIBS LT POST ARTICULATION TO SPINE LT AXILLARY RIBS RT POST ARTICULATION TO SPINE
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24 RPO LPO
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25 If Taken “AP” Technique Used ? Position? Demonstrates? What determines an adequate rotation?
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26 Some of the challenges with RIBS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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27 AP Bilat – OBLIQUE (AD) Position? Demonstrates? CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side up) or ~ 2” lat to MSP (side up) & T7 (AD)
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28 Projection PA AP Position LAO VS RPO
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29 PA Bilat – OBLIQUE (AD) Move both arms out of the way This position not tested in lab
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30 RAO (LOOKS THE SAME AS LPO) BILATERAL OBLIQUE - AD
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31 LAO VS RPO
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32 BILATERAL OBLIQUES (BD) RPO LPO CR ~ 2” lat to MSP (side up) & L1 (BD) 14x17 ( CW)
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33 BELOW THE DIAPHRAM LPO RPO Technique needs improvement
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34 Review :BILATERAL – LPO AD & BD when positioning the patient – do same position (upper & lower) Remember to change the tech ~ same kVp, go up 3 to 4 x in mas
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35 LPO
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36 Review BILATERAL – RPO AD & BD when positioning the patient – do same position (upper & lower)
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37 RPO
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38 Routine: Unilateral RIBS AP or PA (area of injury) 1 or 2 OBLIQUES ex: RT RIBS RPO for RT side (AD & BD) & LPO for RT side (AD & BD) Focus is on RT side or LT side Top & Bottom (AD & BD)
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39 UNILATERAL – RT RIBS ( AP) AD & BD when positioning the patient – do same position (upper & lower) 14 x 17 LW CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP & T7 (AD) & L1 (BD) 11 X 14 CW
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40 UNILATERAL – RT RIBS ( AP) AD & BD
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41 AP UNILATERAL (LT RIBS) AD BD CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP & T7 (AD) L1 (BD)
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42 UNILATERAL – LT RIBS AP AD BD 14 x 17 LW 14 x 17 cw
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43 Unilateral - LT RIBS AD/BD
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44 OBLIQUE Unilateral RIBS 1.AP or PA 2.AP OBLIQUES RT RIBS = RPO for RT side (AD & BD) (“turn pt towards side that hurts”) 3. Additional oblique is LPO for RT side (AD & BD) And/or “cone down” with marker
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45 UNILATERAL Ribs DONE FOR ONE SIDE ONLY AP/PA – (? Injury on the back or front?) AP OBLIQUE – (ribs elongated) – side of problem turn toward the IR = axillary AP (OTHER) OBLIQUE – (ribs foreshortened) – side of problem turn away from the IR (see post art to spine and anterior portion of the rib best – they are superimposed) –Keep your centering on the correct side of the injury
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46 UNILATERAL (LEFT RIBS) – AD doing BOTH Obliques for one side LPO –AXILLARY RPO –LT POST ART “side down” ribs“side up” ribs
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47 CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side down) &~ T7 (AD) “frame with light” top light 1”above shoulder lat side 1” lat to ribs medial ~ 2 “ lat to msp (side up) bottom ~ 10 th rib
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48 Compare to RPO & LPO FOR ONE SIDE RPO FOR RT SIDE LPO FOR LT SIDE
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49 UNILATERAL (LEFT RIBS) – BOTH AD & BD LPO –AXILLARY “side down” ribs MSP + L-1 (Bend of Rib) Top of light 1 – 2 “ above xyphoid Bottom of light 1 – 2 “ below IC MSP + T7 Top of light 1” above shoulder Bottom of light ~ 10 rib
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50 UNILAT – LEFT(LPO)
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51 LPO/RAO – For LEFT Ribs RAO
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52 LPO for BD Lt axillary
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53 Comparison of OBL – BD BILAT VS UNILAT
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54 UNILATERAL – RT RIBS RPO AD RPO BD (for the axillary portion of ribs) When positioning the patient – do same position (upper & lower)
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55 UNILATERAL – RT RIBS RPO AD RPO BD (for the axillary portion of ribs)
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56 LAO/RPO for the RT RIBS UPSIDE = PA AWAY DOWNSIDE = AP TOWARD (SIDE OF PAIN)
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57 UNILATERAL – RT RIBS LPO AD LPO BD (for the posterior portion of ribs- articulation to spine) when positioning the patient – do same position (upper & lower) Aka “side up” ribs “extra view” CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side up) &~ T7 (AD) “frame with light” top light 1”above shoulder lat side 1” lat to ribs medial ~ 2 “ lat to msp bottom ~ 10th rib CR ~ ½ way between MSP/MCP (side up) + L-1 (Bend of Rib) Top of light 1 – 2 “ above xyphoid Bottom of light 1 – 2 “ below IC
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58 UNILATERAL – RT RIBS LPO AD LPO BD (for the posterior portion of ribs- articulation to spine)
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59 OBLIQ - (LEFT RIBS) – AD RPO –LT POST ART
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60 Position? Demonstrating? AD BD T7 or L 1
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61 End of Rib positioning Review Part 3 Image Review
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