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1 on Large Modular Layouts
Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Special Environment: Layout is not permanent Less compact as permanent layouts Layout is different each time Set-up has to work almost instantly This results in an "oversized" system Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

5 Systems not compatible with NMRA DCC:
Märklin Motorola: 80/256 Addresses and 14 speed steps, No throttle bus Selectrix: 112 addresses and 31 speed steps Smooth operation with BEMF Throttle bus not designed for extended length. FMZ and Zimo: proprietary format without a real future. Today these manufacturers offer NMRA DCC Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Our Needs Both short and long addresses at the same time 14, 28 and 128 speed steps at the same time Cab bus length minimum 1000 foot Our Wishes No throttle IDs Dumb throttles for Train crews Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Our Needs Both short and long addresses at the same time 14, 28 and 128 speed steps at the same time Cab bus length minimum 1000 foot Our Wishes No throttle IDs The protocol of the throttle bus shall be available The throttle bus shall be easy to interface to Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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DCC manufacturers Lenz (in 1997): No long addresses, No 128 speed steps, bus limited to 330 foot in linear topology only Zimo: All we wanted and more but too expensive due to extra features not needed. SystemOne / NCE: also all we needed, but throttle IDs and polled bus. Digitrax: All we needed, throttle IDs not mandatory, network style bus, distributor in Germany Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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DCC System Selected Throttle Bus: LocoNet, having both throttle bus and booster control bus in a single cable Command Station: Digitrax DCS100 (Chief) or Uhlenbrock Intellibox or DIY command station based on a PC Throttles: Our DIY throttle called FRED (FREMOs einfacher Drehregler) Boosters: Optoinsulated boosters either DIY or from Lenz Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Booster Set-up Distributed boosters using the LocoNet cable running along the whole layout anyway Boosters close to center of the power district they supply results in lower requirements for the wiring No power managers as they would spoil the principles above Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Grounding Booster A Booster B LocoNet Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Grounding Booster A Booster B Ground Wire LocoNet Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Grounding Booster A Booster B optoinsulation optoinsulation LocoNet Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

14 Optoinsulation – Drawbacks
Locos with offset pick-up may stall at gap UP3 / UP5: The track power conn. may not be used The wall wart approach doesn’t help either Extra supply for throttles needed resulting in RailSync boosters supplying RailSync districts Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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RailSync Loads RailSync output of the DSC 100 can supply 125 mA line to line or 250 mA line to ground Equivalent to e.g. 4 boosters + 14 throttles For higher loads the cable is regarded as too thin so dividing the layout into RailSync districts Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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RailSync Booster Current limiting needed (RSCLD) Easy solution as within the DCS 100 2 resistors of 27 Ohm Diodes needed to get ground reference again One booster may drive multiple RSCLDs The booster in the command station is used Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Wiring Star type topology with central RSCLD node This reduces voltage drop along the LocoNet No use of UP3 / UP5 DIY plug-in boxes: Placed where the current layout needs them Easily attached and replaced in case of failure LocoNet only integrated in stations Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Polarity No chance to insure the polarity So just testing, starting from a central point Test either with dedicated tester or a loco Fixed polarity within stations with multiple booster due to common polarity switch. Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Throttles A pod for speed control with a direction switch. Single hand operation with either hand. As slim as possible. No address selection on its own. No battery, requiring a low current design. Wireless out of reach :-( Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

32 The FRED It proves how easy DCC can be. Reinhard Müller
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FRED Success Story ... even with problems at the start First guess: 30 throttles are enough Then each loco kept it's FRED People want to use them at home 330 FREDs with commercial PCBs + 560 FRED PCBs FRED Kits Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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Long Addresses. Each loco gets a fixed address Blocks of 100 addresses per group i.e. decentralized administration. Each scale full set of addresses But not each gauge Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

35 Multiple command stations?
"There can be only one" -> NO Limited DCC bandwidth -> Yes Switched block approach: Throttle needs to transfer address Switching under the running train It can be done - with care Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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What did DCC to our club? DCC was introduced faster then expected Modules allow "per meeting" decision But each member to be convinced Larger layouts - errors stay local Larger stations - no block switches More train crews - double track mainline No technical limits to for the operation Most FREMO groups now with DCC Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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with A Lot of Operating Fun Reinhard Müller DCC on Large Modular Layouts – Seattle 2004

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