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1 Furnace Troubleshooting

2 Combustion Service

3 Objectives : Good furnace troubleshooting requires enhanced skills from the servicer
Service Tips Induced draft furnace combustion process Combustion system service checks System effects on draft Flame detection - principles and service checks Flame sensing variables

4 Service Tip Use of diagnostic LED 40” Furnace “book” (p.9)
After introducing the visual, cut to first video segment showing First check of thermostat call for heat “Don’t Touch That Dial”!!! Approach furnace Check LED Flash Rate - Wide shot - Close up of light flashing (2 flash rate) Next: PPT: Different flash rates (front cover of control) PPT: Bullet Slide “Pressure switch error”

5 Service Tip Use of diagnostic LED (40” Furnace “book” (p.9)
DON’T TOUCH THAT DIAL !! After introducing the visual, cut to first video segment showing First check of thermostat call for heat “Don’t Touch That Dial”!!! Approach furnace Check LED Flash Rate - Wide shot - Close up of light flashing (2 flash rate) Next: PPT: Different flash rates (front cover of control) PPT: Bullet Slide “Pressure switch error”

6 Error Flash Codes R W1 W2 Y R G B WHITE-RODGERS Emerson Electric Co.
DIAGNOSTIC INDICATOR FLASHING SLOW NORMAL, NO CALL FOR HEAT FLASHING FAST NORMAL CALL FOR HEAT CONTINUOUS ON REPLACE CONTROL CONTINUOUS OFF CHECK POWER 2 FLASHES SYSTEM LOCKOUT (NO FLAME) 3 FLASHES PRESSURE SWITCH PROBLEM 4 FLASHES THERMAL PROTECTION DEVICE OPEN 5 FLASHES FLAME SENSED WITH GAS VALVE OFF REFER TO SERVICE INSTRUCTIONS FOR MORE INFORMATION FP PS2 MVH HLI TH GND PS1 MVL MV COM TR HLO WHITE-RODGERS Emerson Electric Co. R WR MODEL 50A D340021P01 REPLACE WITH CNT 1308 Green wall PPT of latest IFC cover. Scanned is good if good quality. Go through the flash rates 1 by 1, quickly Transition to “Let’s look at 2 of the most common errors” - first of which is a flame sense error - commonly called a 2 flash lockout. Flame sensing error

7 Error Flash Codes (See p. 9)
WHITE-RODGERS Emerson Electric Co. WR MODEL 50A D340021P01 REPLACE WITH CNT 1308 DIAGNOSTIC INDICATOR FLASHING SLOW NORMAL, NO CALL FOR HEAT FLASHING FAST NORMAL CALL FOR HEAT CONTINUOUS ON REPLACE CONTROL CONTINUOUS OFF CHECK POWER 2 FLASHES SYSTEM LOCKOUT (NO FLAME) 3 FLASHES PRESSURE SWITCH PROBLEM 4 FLASHES THERMAL PROTECTION DEVICE OPEN 5 FLASHES FLAME SENSED WITH GAS VALVE OFF REFER TO SERVICE INSTRUCTIONS FOR MORE INFORMATION FP PS2 MVH HLI TH GND PS1 MVL MV COM TR HLO R W1 W2 Y R G B Green wall PPT of latest IFC cover. Scanned is good if good quality. Go through the flash rates 1 by 1, quickly Transition to “Let’s look at 2 of the most common errors” - first of which is a flame sense error - commonly called a 2 flash lockout. Flame sensing error

8 Pressure Switch Error What can cause the Integrated Furnace Control to indicate a pressure switch error? (Flowchart on p. 51 of 40” Furnace “Book”) Need video of 3 flash from location

9 Pressure Switch Single Stage
INTEGRATED FURNACE CONTROL 6 3 9 12 4 5 10 7 11 1 2 8 Y W G R C FLAME SENSOR TCO TCO-B FUSE LINK PRESSURE SWITCH 1, GAS VALVE TR TH MV PS HLI HLO FP GND

10 Pressure Switch Two Stage
INTEGRATED FURNACE CONTROL 2 7 11 8 12 6 10 9 1 3 5 4 Y W G R FLAME SENSOR TCO TCO-B FUSE LINK PRESSURE SWITCH 1ST STAGE B COM CL HI LO 2ND STAGE GAS VALVE THERMOSTAT TWINNING FP HLO HLI PSI GND MVL MVCOM MVH PS2 TH TR

11 Inducer Motor IFC Y W G R B 9 1 3 5 4 FLAME SENSOR TCO TCO-B FUSE LINK
PRESSURE SWITCH 1ST STAGE B 2 COM CL HI LO THERMOSTAT TWINNING FP HLO HLI PSI GND IGN N IND N IND LO IND HI IGN IGNITOR IND. MTR.

12 Pressure Switch Error What can cause the integrated furnace control to
indicate a pressure switch error? Switch CLOSED when it should be OPEN 24 VAC at “PS” too early (inducer not “energized) (See Flowchart on p.51 of 40” Furnace “Book”) When referencing the 40” furnace book - ask audience not to try to completely examine the flowchart - it’s there for future reference. Mention that they start on P.49 with the 1 stg IFC first

13 Pressure Switch Error What can cause the integrated furnace control to
indicate a pressure switch error? Switch OPEN when it should be CLOSED No 24 VAC at “PS”, inducer circuit “energized” (See Flowchart on p.51 of 40” Furnace “Book”) When referencing the 40” furnace book - ask audience not to try to completely examine the flowchart - it’s there for future reference. Mention that they start on P.49 with the 1 stg IFC first

14 Pressure Switch Error Diagnostics
Vent Length Draft/Vacuum Measurements Electrical Checks Factors Affecting Draft

15 Determining Total Vent Lengths See p. 9 of Installer Guide 18-CD19D6-5
MAXIMUM VENT LENGTH: MAXIMUM TOTAL EQUIVALENT FEET FOR VENT AND INLET AIR (See Notes) MODEL 2” PIPE & FITTINGS 2-1/2” PIPE 3” PIPE *UX040C924 *UX060C936 *UX080C942 *UX100C948 *UX100C960 *UX120C960 60 30 N/A 80 15 100 NOTES: First Letter may be “A” or “T” 1. DO NOT MIX PIPE DIAMETERS IN THE SAME LENGTH OF PIPE OUTSIDE THE FURNACE CABINET (except adapters at top of furnace). 2. MAXIMUM PIPE LENGTHS MUST NOT BE EXCEEDED 3. One 90 o elbow is equivalent to 10 ‘ of 3 “ pipe 71/2’ of 21/2” pipe, & 5’ of 2” pipe. Two 45o elbows equal one 90o elbow. 4. The termination tee or bend must be included in the total number of elbows. The BAYVENT100A termination is equal to 5 equivalent feet of pipe. The BAYVENT200A is 0 equivalent feet. 5. Pipe adapters are field supplied. Use Vent Table from TUC Installer Guide Prepare to answer many call in questions about this one.

16 Combustion Air Pressure Switch
FIELD SUPPLIED TUBE & TEE SECTION

17 Examine the effects of system variations on draft
Vent Length Blockages Wind Gas Input Airflow

18 Vacuum / Draft Pathway PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL SWITCH BURNER INDUCED BOX
INLET PIPE BURNER BOX PRIMARY HEAT EXCHANGER FLUE COLLECTOR BOX TRANSFER TUBE RECOUP CELL PRESSURE DIFFERENTIAL SWITCH INDUCED DRAFT BLOWER

19 Effects of Low System Airflow on Internal Vacuum
Hot furnace Means hot flue gases Hot flue gases expand - take up more space Expanding flue gases raise pressure in furnace

20 Flame Current

21 Flame Rectification Ref p.25 of 40” Furnace “Book”
Remember Ohm’s Law E = I X R

22 Basic Electrical Circuit
SOURCE - + CONDUCTOR CONTROL LOAD

23 Alternating Current Sine Wave
Applied AC voltage + -

24 Flame Rectification circuit
What devices are used for electrodes? Flame rod Burner

25 Flame Rectification Circuit
Voltage Source: Ignition Control “Load”: flame sensing circuit inside the control Conductors: wires, and electrodes already identified. “Switch”? The flame completes the circuit.

26 Flame Sense Circuit One electrode is larger than the other causing electron flow to be greater in one direction than in the other. Compare the burner size to the flame rod size.

27 Flame Sensing - Service
Measuring outputs Measuring inputs Circuit integrity checks Polarity Grounding method / continuity

28 + FP GND _ Current flow when flame rod is positive + - 5a

29 _ FP GND + Current flow when flame rod is negative + - 1a

30 Effective Flame Signal
+ + a Effect = 4a pulsating DC Applied AC voltage - a -

31 Flame Rectification Circuit
Remember Ohm’s Law ? What happens in a circuit if resistance increases and voltage stays the same? What can affect the resistance in the circuit? What else can affect the flame signal?

32 Increased circuit resistances
Burner oxidation Non-secure burner Flame “lift off” Loose wire connections Contaminated flame sensor Faulty grounds No grounds Reverse polarity

33 DC Current vs. AC Current
VALVE DROPOUT IS IN AC MICROAMPS

34 DC Current vs. AC Current
50A STG CONTROL

35 DC Current vs AC Current 2 Stage IFC

36 Flame Sensing - Variables
Remember Ohms Law E=I x R Watch that resistance Too little DC = too bad Too much AC = too bad Grounded flame sensor Look out for noise!

37 Question Name something which can cause a “2 flash” lockout which has not yet been discussed. Answer: 1) No gas available - check supply 2) Multiple recycles caused by other faults (ie: pressure switch trips) (See p.10) While waiting for questions - cue up 3 flash video


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