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The Iliad by Homer
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Socratic Seminar: Discussion Questions
1. What makes a hero? 2. What makes a good leader? 3. Girls, would you allow a war to be started over you? A fight? 4. Boys, would you start a war over a girl? 5. Would you fight for a family member even if you knew they were wrong?
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6. Is war ever a good idea? 7. When a politician today does not win, who or what does he blame it on? 8. In society how do we gain glory? 9. How do you control your rage? 10. What is hubris? Who is someone who is hubris?
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Elements of the Epic An extended narrative poem recounting actions, travels, adventures, specific rhyme, and heroic episodes and written in a high style (with ennobled diction). These elements helped them to memorize the poem.
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Epic Structure Invocation to the muse or other deity ("Sing,
goddess, of the wrath of Achilles") Story begins in medias res (in the middle of things) Catalogs (of participants on each side, ships, sacrifices) Histories and descriptions of significant items (who made a sword or shield, how it was decorated, who owned it from generation to generation) Epic simile (a long simile where the image becomes an object of art in its own right as well as serving to clarify the subject).
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Epic Structure –Cont.- Frequent use of epithets ("Aeneas the true"; "rosy-fingered Dawn"; "tall-masted ship") Use of patronymics (calling son by father's name): "Anchises' son" Long, formal speeches by important characters Journey to the underworld Use of the number three (attempts are made three times, etc.) Previous episodes in the story are later recounted
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The Epic Hero Cycle 1. The main character is a hero, who is
often possessed of supernatural abilities or qualities. 2. The hero is charged with a quest. 3. The hero is tested, often to prove the worthiness of himself and his quest. 4. The presence of numerous mythical beings, magical and helpful animals, and human helpers and companions 5. The hero’s travels take him to a supernatural world, often one that normal human beings are barred from entering. 6. The cycle must reach a low point where the hero nearly gives up his quest or appears defeated. 7. A resurrection. 8. Restitution. Often this takes the form of the hero regaining his rightful place on the throne.
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Homer, the epic poet Classical Greek Poet Told stories orally
Is known for capturing and passing down Greek Mythology and The Iliad and The Odyssey He wrote about preserving honor. Honor is the most important thing.
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The Iliad: Why Do We Study It?
Learn a little about an ancient world whose ideas have greatly influenced our own world Be familiar with the first piece of literature the western world has to offer Discover an eventful, exciting war story. Gain insight into the minds of men in the desperate circumstances of war
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Themes in The Iliad Rage Glory of War
Role of Women in Ancient Civilization Military and glory over family Human life and the role of the gods Hubris
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Pre-Iliad Paris/ Alexandros takes Helen back to Troy
Hera and Athena have hate for Troy and Aphrodite because Paris says Aphrodite is the most beautiful. Greeks and Trojans have been in war for 9 years. Agamemnon steals the duaghters of Apollo’s priest and then Apollo plagues the city.
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A Clip Introduction to the Iliad
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Independent Writing: You will have 5 minutes to brainstorm and then 20 minutes to write 2-3 paragraphs answering the following questions: How can modern society define a hero? Who is an example of a hero? What makes him or her heroic? I will be looking for a strong thesis statement, development, and specific details.
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