1. The Aussie Economy: Good Times or Stormy Waters? BTalk’s Phil Dobbie and Steve Keen, Associate Professor, University of Western Sydney

2. Steve Keen Uni Western Sydney Aussie Economy: Good Times or Stormy Waters? Associate Professor – University of Western Sydney Author of Debunking Economics Maintains debt-deflation blog www.debtdeflation.com/blogs

3. Aren’t good times here again?

5. Growing debt necessary in a growing economy… “If income is to grow, the financial markets … must generate an aggregate demand that, aside from brief intervals, is ever rising. For real aggregate demand to be increasing, … it is necessary that current spending plans, summed over all sectors, be greater than current received income and that some market technique exist by which aggregate spending in excess of aggregate anticipated income can be financed. It follows that over a period during which economic growth takes place, at least some sectors finance a part of their spending by emitting debt or selling assets.” (Minsky 1982, p. 6; emphasis added) But not when it finances speculation rather than investment…

6. This is the biggest debt bubble in history

7. Debt and GDP Rising debt winds the economy up Falling debt winds it down… Spending = sum of GDP plus change in debt Illustration: 1920-1940

8. Aggregate Demand

9. Aggregate Demand and unemployment 1920-1940

10. Debt and GDP Same exercise for 1990-2010:

11. Aggregate Demand

12. Aggregate Demand and unemployment 1990-2010

13. Debt-financed fraction of aggregate demand is...

14. Australia is doing better because of less deleveraging USA Aus Aus USA

15. Debt financed demand & unemployment, Australia Less deleveraging here but same change in debt— unemployment correlation

16. How deleveraging works It’s a second order thing… If demand = GDP + change in debt The growth in demand is – Change in GDP + change in change in debt – Not just debt, or the rate of growth of debt – But how rapidly that rate of growth is changing…

17. How deleveraging works A numerical example – In “dream world” where GDP growth unaffected… Variable/YearYear 1Year 2Year 3Year 4Year 5Year 6 Nominal GDP1,0001,1001,2101,3311,4641,611 Growth rate of Nominal GDP10% Real growth rate5% Inflation Rate5% Private Debt1,2501,5001,650 1,4851,411 Growth rate of Private Debt20%10%0%-10%-5%0% Change in Private Debt2501500-165-740 Nominal Aggregate demand (GDP + Change in Debt)1,250 1,2101,1661,3901,611 Change in Aggregate Demand0-40-44224221 Change in Aggregate Demand Percent0%-3%-4%16%14%

18. Variable\Year1929193019311932193319341935 GDP103,60091,20076,50058,70056,40066,00073,300 Change in Nominal GDP %6.0%-12.0%-16.1%-23.3%-3.9%17.0%11.1% Inflation Rate %-1.2%0.0%-7.0%-10.1%-9.8%2.3%3.0% Private Debt161,800161,100148,400137,100127,900125,300124,500 Debt Growth Rate %3.7%-0.4%-7.9%-7.6%-6.7%-2.0%-0.6% Change in Debt5,700-700-12,700-11,300-9,200-2,600-800 GDP + Change in Private Debt109,30090,50063,80047,40047,20063,40072,500 Change in Private Aggregate Demand %0.0%-17.2%-29.5%-25.7%-0.4%34.3%14.4% Government Debt30,10031,20034,50037,90040,60046,30050,500 Change in Government Debt-1001,1003,3003,4002,7005,7004,200 GDP + Change in Total Debt109,20091,60067,10050,80049,90069,10076,700 Change in Total Aggregate Demand %0-17,600-24,500-16,300-90019,2007,600 Change in Total Aggregate Demand %0.0%-16.1%-26.7%-24.3%-1.8%38.5%11.0% USA then…

19. Variable\Year20062007200820092010 GDP12,915,60013,611,50014,291,30014,191,20014,277,300 Change in Nominal GDP %6.3%5.4%5.0%-0.7%0.6% Change in Real GDP %2.7%2.4%2.3%-2.8%0.2% Inflation Rate %4.0%2.1%4.3%0.0%2.6% Private Debt33,196,81736,553,38540,596,58642,045,48140,185,976 Debt Growth Rate %9.6%10.1%11.1%3.6%-4.4% Change in Debt2,914,1873,356,5684,043,2011,448,895-1,859,505 GDP + Change in Private Debt15,829,78716,968,06818,334,50115,640,09512,417,795 Change in Private Aggregate Demand %0.0%7.2%8.1%-14.7%-20.6% Government Debt6,556,3916,893,4677,321,5928,615,05110,167,585 Change in Government Debt %478,851337,076428,1251,293,4591,552,534 GDP + Change in Total Debt16,308,63817,305,14418,762,62616,933,55413,970,329 Change in Total Aggregate Demand0996,5061,457,482-1,829,072-2,963,225 Change in Total Aggregate Demand %0.0%6.1%8.4%-9.7%-17.5% Mortgage Debt10,042,42911,157,75711,954,05411,903,39111,683,114 Change in Mortgage Debt1,179,2741,115,328796,297-50,663-220,277 USA now. Slowdown in debt can cause crisis

20. Variable\Year20062007200820092010 GDP966,0321,039,9531,134,4311,237,8841,257,016 Change in Nominal GDP %8.1%7.7%9.1% 1.5% Change in Real GDP %3.2%2.6%4.8%2.3%1.3% Inflation Rate %2.8%3.3%3.0%3.7%2.1% Private Debt1,321,9001,510,6001,770,1491,904,6401,915,384 Debt Growth Rate %13.5%14.3%17.2%7.6%0.6% Change in Debt157,420188,700259,549134,49110,744 GDP + Change in Private Debt1,123,4521,228,6531,393,9801,372,3751,267,760 Change in Private Aggregate Demand %0.0%9.4%13.5%-1.5%-7.6% Government Debt14,97317,17420,87132,14069,749 Change in Government Debt %-5,5532,2013,69711,26937,609 GDP + Change in Total Debt1,117,8991,230,8541,397,6771,383,6441,305,369 Change in Total Aggregate Demand %0.0%10.1%13.6%-1.0%-5.7% Mortgage Debt722,844819,095916,897998,6281,076,425 Change in Mortgage Debt81,61896,25197,80281,73177,797 Australia now. Australia still not deleveraging

21. Booming…? What about house prices?

22. Far higher than US, Japan What about house prices? But only because their price bubbles have already crashed Notice our prices below USA 2005-08

23. Can population pressure justify high prices?... What about house prices? Dwelling growth exceeded population growth every year except 2007-10

24. And Chinese demand? What about house prices? We beat GFC because of Victoria and housing Chinese growth only kicked in mid-2010

25. Industry Growth March 2009-May 2010 Growth Rate Agriculture20,5035.7% Mining20,65913.0% Electricity-7,923-5.5% Construction29,9353.0% Wholesale11,7593.0% Retail-32,859-2.7% Accommodation &Food49,2796.9% Transport-2,513-0.4% Information Technology-7,753-3.5% Finance-1,982-0.5% Real Estate23,28713.4% Professional78,64010.4% Administration15,6094.4% Education28,8533.6% Health47,0604.0% Arts-13,156-6.2% Other Services17,6414.0% Total Victoria109,8944.1% Total Australia158,7102.1% Biggest growth industries stimulus and FHVB driven Chinese-driven demand a late arrival

26. Or does financial pressure explain it? What about house prices?

27. Just like the USA… Australian households now more indebted than USA Debt servicing costs 1.5 times as high here as in USA

28. And government manipulation of the market? Prices bubbled when FHOG introduced or doubled… No trend in real prices prior to 1 st First Home Owners Scheme (1983) What about house prices?

29. But what about “underlying demand”? Legitimate measurement of social need Illegitimate measure of demand pressure on house prices: (National Housing Supply Council 2010, p. 66) – “2008 gap size = – additional private rental dwellings required in 2008 to increase the number of vacant private rental dwellings to 3 per cent of the total private rental stock – + dwellings required to accommodate people who are homeless and sleeping rough or staying with friends and relatives – + dwellings required to house marginal residents of caravan parks.” What about house prices?

30. Past 40 years of economic history driven by leveraging up – Sustained false boom since 1987 Stock Market Crash Foreseeable future driven by deleveraging – Private sector now debt-saturated There has never been a post-WWII recovery without rising debt – Sign of inherently sick economy – But absence of rising debt now means little likelihood of sustained economic “recovery” Ultimately have to confront excessive debt – “Debts that can’t be repaid, won’t be repaid” (Michael Hudson) – Debt moratoria better than honouring debt that should never have been issued Structural problems (excessive financial sector, trade imbalance) remain even if debt problems confronted Summary

31. 31 Complete the questionnaire Steve Keen Thanks Steve! Any questions?

32. 32 Complete the questionnaire Phil DobbieSteve Keen In the draw to receive a FREE copy of Debunking Economics Complete the Questionnaire

33. 33 Complete the questionnaire Queries “Those convincing us that housing is not in a bubble, among other measures use household income to show that prices are still reasonable, rather then an individual income. Women's participation rate is at the historic high. Does that make the housing market more stable, considering also high divorce rate?”