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MUSIC: BRAHMS Cello Sonatas (1862, 1886) Mstislav Rostropovich, Cello Rudolph Serkin, Piano Recording: 1983 B1 LUNCH TODAY: MEET ON BRICKS @ 12:05 Caraker; Kaye; Lafalce; Marti; Newbold; Suarez; Walker
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LOGISTICS: CLASS #13 B1: If you need to miss class on Wed 9/26 for Yom Kippur, you may come to B2 session on Thurs 9/27. – To get attendance credit, if you intend to do this, please notify my assistant by Tuesday 9/25.
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LOGISTICS: CLASS #13 ALL: Assignment #1 Due Mon 9/24 @ 9pm Today = Last Chance for Qs Double-check all instructions before finalizing Briefs Due Before Fall Break: KRYPTON: Albers Brief Due Thu 9/27 @ 9pm URANIUM: Kesler Brief Due Sun 9/30 @ 4pm RADIUM: Taber Brief Due Sun 9/30 @ 4pm Use briefing form for trial court cases available next week Shaw Briefs Available Monday from Letty Tejeda
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The Rhythm of the First Year Same at Every School Where I’ve Taught
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The Rhythm of the First Year Three Typical Low Points: 1.Mid-September 2.Mid-October 3.Mid-November
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The Rhythm of the First Year: The Mid-September Crisis You Have Never in Your Life Worked So Hard for a Whole Month Without Feeling on Top of Things!!! Common to Start to Worry That …
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The Rhythm of the First Year: The Mid-September Crisis I’m the Stupidest Person Here & They Let Me In By Mistake
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The Rhythm of the First Year: The Mid-September Crisis KEEP IN MIND: We’ve Already Discussed: – You’re Learning New Language by Immersion
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The Rhythm of the First Year: The Mid-September Crisis KEEP IN MIND: We’ve Already Discussed: – You’re Learning New Language by Immersion – Perception of “Hard” v. “Easy” Questions
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The Rhythm of the First Year: The Mid-September Crisis KEEP IN MIND: Learning New Language by Immersion Perception of “Hard” v. “Easy” Questions Nature of Socratic Method: Profs Control Discussion & Decide What’s “Relevant”
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The Rhythm of the First Year: The Mid-September Crisis KEEP IN MIND: Analogy to “Calisthenics”: You Are Starting to Use New Muscles, So You’ll Be a Little Sore
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The Rhythm of the First Year: The Mid-September Crisis KEEP IN MIND: Analogy to “Calisthenics”: Second Year Students (No Secret 1L Graveyard)
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The Rhythm of the First Year: The Mid-September Crisis KEEP IN MIND: Analogy to “Calisthenics”: Second Year Students Almost All of You will be Worried About Something Else in Mid-October
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MINING the MEANING of MANNING
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 45: OXYGEN E - Mail Holding to Me by 5 pm Saturday For Amy: Brooks, Brittany (B1) Cooper, Josh (B1) Kaye, Joey (B1) Deleon, Blair (B2) Ford, Luke (B2) Holmes, Jordan (B2) For Brandon: Lafalce, Nicholas (B1) Newbold, Sean (B1) Suarez, Milvia (B1) Lasoff, Sean (B2) Revah, Phil (B2) Vaal, Joshua (B2)
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 42: RADIUM The law of Georgia is, that to have property in animals, birds and fishes which are wild by nature, one must have them within his actual possession, custody or control, and this he may do by taming, domesticating, or confining them. Could simply go to 1 st possession and mean that Mitcherson owned bird prior to escape. Could mean, “Once tamed, yours forever”, BUT structure of opinion suggests otherwise
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 42 & POSSIBLE DOCTRINAL RATIONALE To have property in animals ferae naturae, “one must have them within his actual possession, custody or control, and this he may do by taming, domesticating, or confining them.” The court found this test met here, explicitly by “taming” and presumably also by “confining”, so that the plaintiff had a property right in the bird. The court then indicated that this right not would be lost by escape on the facts here.
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 42: RADIUM The law of Georgia is, that to have property in animals, birds and fishes which are wild by nature, one must have them within his actual possession, custody or control, and this he may do by taming, domesticating, or confining them. Interesting Dahl idea that OO retains ownership if sufficient evidence remains of taming, domesticating or confining. (Can Finder tell? Maybe play with going forward)
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM To say that if one has a canary bird, mocking bird, parrot, or any other bird so kept and it should accidentally escape from its cage to the street, or to a neighboring house, that the first person who caught it would be its owner, is wholly at variance with our views of right and justice. (p.38 last para.) For Sweet, not an accident! Court probably means owner did not deliberately allow bird to fly free
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM To say that if one has a canary bird, mocking bird, parrot, or any other bird so kept and it should accidentally escape from its cage to the street, or to a neighboring house, that the first person who caught it would be its owner, is wholly at variance with our views of right and justice. Likely true here; if so, why relevant?
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM To say that if one has a canary bird, mocking bird, parrot, or any other bird so kept and it should accidentally escape from its cage to the street, or to a neighboring house, that the first person who caught it would be its owner, is wholly at variance with our views of right and justice. Likely true here; if so, why relevant? – Only a short distance from point of escape? – Not returned to natural habitat/liberty? (although court doesn’t use this language)
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Manning v. Mitcherson : Might add Distance to HOLDING : The original owner retains property rights in an escaped [animal ferae naturae] [that had distinctive crest][that responded to its name] [that had escaped and returned once before] [that had been owned for two years][that had been missing for only five days][that OO located day after it was found] [that only traveled a short distance after escape]
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM To say that if one has a canary bird, mocking bird, parrot, or any other bird so kept and it should accidentally escape from its cage to the street, or to a neighboring house, that the first person who caught it would be its owner, is wholly at variance with our views of right and justice. WHY? This is unsupported rhetoric. You need to do better. More explanation = More Persuasive = More Points
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM To say that if one has a canary bird, mocking bird, parrot, or any other bird so kept and it should accidentally escape from its cage to the street, or to a neighboring house, that the first person who caught it would be its owner, is wholly at variance with our views of right and justice. WHY? MAYBE: Unfair to OO; too close in time and distance to lose rights (protect emotional & material investment) MAYBE: Finder should know that there is prior OO, so shouldn’t keep it MAYBE BOTH PLAUSIBLE ADDITIONAL ARGUMENT (Grabel): Court is concerned that OO not have to over-invest in confinement in order to maintain ownership.
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM To hold that the traveling organist with his attendant monkey, if it should slip its collar, and go at will out of his immediate possession and control, and be captured by another person, that he would be the true owner and the organist lose all claim to it, is hardly to be expected; or that the wild animals of a menagerie, should they escape from their owner's immediate possession, would belong to the first person who should subject them to his dominion. (p.38 last para.) WHAT IS MENAGERIE?
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM Animals Referenced in Last Paragraph: Wild Animals in a Menagerie (= Zoo) Organ Grinder’s Monkey Why These Animals?
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM Why Animals Referenced in Last Paragraph: – Wild Animals in a Menagerie (= Zoo) – Organ Grinder’s Monkey MAYBE: Valuable (but canary much less $$$) MAYBE: F should know there’s prior owner Again inconsistent with simply relying on “tamed”
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44 & POSSIBLE POLICY RATIONALES Based in Labor/Investment The court stated that it would be unjust to allow the finder to keep a pet bird that escaped to the street. It compared the case to an escaped organ grinder’s monkey and to wild animals escaping from a menagerie. These analogies suggest that it might be trying to protect the original owner’s investment in training and purchasing the animal.
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44 & POSSIBLE POLICY RATIONALES Based in Notice to Finder The court stated that it would be unjust to allow the finder to keep a pet bird that escaped to the street. It compared the case to an escaped organ grinder’s monkey and to wild animals escaping from a menagerie. These analogies suggest that it might believe that the finders of all these animals ought to know that they have a prior owner, and so should return them.
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44 & POSSIBLE POLICY RATIONALES Other Possible Policy Rationales?
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : DQ 44: RADIUM To hold that the traveling organist with his attendant monkey, if it should slip its collar, and go at will out of his immediate possession and control, and be captured by another person, that he would be the true owner and the organist lose all claim to it, is hardly to be expected; or that the wild animals of a menagerie, should they escape from their owner's immediate possession, would belong to the first person who should subject them to his dominion. Again looks like short time/distance relevant.
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Mining Manning ‘ s Meaning : Plausible Factors Taming (or Other Investment in Animal) Marking (or F Likely Aware of OO) Emotional Bond Short Time/Distance from Escape
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Taming (or Other Investment in Animal) Marking (or F Likely Aware of OO) Emotional Bond Short Time/Distance from Escape
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Taming (or Other Investment in Animal) Evidence Here?
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Taming (or Other Investment in Animal) Evidence Here No Evidence of Taming/Training Probably Significant $$$ Investment (Cross- Country Travel) Factor Help OO Under Manning?
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Taming (or Other Investment in Animal) Evidence Here No Evidence of Taming/Training Probably Significant $$$ Investment Factor Help OO Under Manning? Not Tamed Unclear How Much $$$ Investment Helps (Maybe b/c of Menagerie Animals)
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Marking (or F Likely Aware of OO) Evidence Here?
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Marking (or F Likely Aware of OO) Evidence Here – “Blemishes” (Scarsides) – Maybe F Should Know b/c in Atlantic (Save for Discussion of Natural Liberty) Blemishes as Marks Help OO Under Manning?
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Marking (or F Likely Aware of OO) Evidence Here: “Blemishes” Blemishes Help OO Under Manning? – Useful to I.D. Animal – Probably Don’t Tell F There’s a Prior Claim
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Emotional Bond: No Evidence at All “He stuck me on this stupid island and he doesn’t call, he doesn’t write ….”
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OXYGEN DQ 45: Applying Manning ‘ s Factors to Facts of Mullett Short Time/Distance from Escape Evidence Here Escape “a few days” after OO regained animal Captured by F ~2 Weeks After Escape Captured by F 70 Miles from “Home” OO discovers animal about 1 year later Factor Help OO Under Manning?
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