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PHL 201 March 18, 2004 Quiz #3 Answers Next Quiz – Mar. 26 (new format) Essay Assignments Chapter Four – The Self Faculty Course Surveys
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Chapter Four – The Self 1. How do we think about the self? 2. Personal Identity 3. The Bundle Theory of the Self 4. The Self as an Organizing Principle
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How do we think about the self? (i) Some things we actually think about ourselves: -We were once smaller than we are now. -We will become older than we are now. -As we age our bodies change. -The organic material that composes our bodies changes over time. -Our memories will fade or change over time. -We could survive losing certain parts of our bodies.
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-The first list is compatible with a materialistic view of what we are – we are material bodies. -The second list suggests that we are more than just bodies. -It suggests we are immaterial souls that are contingently fastened to our bodies. -we can change shape and form over time, and can exist without being connected to our bodies -we can change shape and form over time, and can exist without being connected to our bodies
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-René Descartes (1596-1650) thought he had good reason for thinking that his body and his soul were distinct kinds of things -he also thought he had a clear and distinct idea about what his soul/self was -he also thought he had a clear and distinct idea about what his soul/self was -David Hume (1711-1776) disagreed -when he introspected, all he was aware of were particular sensations or thoughts -he was never aware of something more -he was never aware of something more -his self was elusive to introspection -his self was elusive to introspection -if he possessed a self, he thought it would be observable by introspection -if he possessed a self, he thought it would be observable by introspection
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-Other philosophers, e.g. Descartes and Thomas Reid (1710-1796), have thought that the soul must be simple, non-composite, and indivisible -many have thought that if the soul is simple, then it must be immortal (indestructible): 1. If something changes or decays, then it must be composed of parts. 2. The soul is not composed of parts. Therefore, 3. The soul does not change or decay
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-If this is a sound argument, then it follows that the soul will survive the death of our bodies. -However, if it’s sound, it also follows that our souls existed before we were born. -This does sound odd. -This does sound odd. -Note that this argument does not give us reason for thinking that if the soul is composed of parts, then it must be mortal.
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Personal Identity -We think that we are the same person today that we were yesterday (a week ago, a year ago, ten years ago) -We also think that, if we live long enough, there will be someone ten years from now who is us – i.e. someone who is identical to us -But what conditions must obtain for it to be true that someone at an earlier time/later time is identical to who we are now?
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Some Logical Properties of Identity If A, B, and C are names objects, then: - A is identical to A (Everything is identical to itself – Identity is a reflexive relation.) - If A is identical to B, then B is identical to A (Identity is a symmetrical relation.) -If A is identical to B, and B is identical to C, then A is identical to C. (Identity is a transitive relation.)
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The Ship of Theseus An illustration of how difficult it can be to think about identity over time (Diachronic Identity): -Theseus sails away in a new ship called Argos. -Over time, Theseus replaces parts of the ship as they age, and replaces them with new parts. -Twenty years later, every part of Argos has been replaced and the ship has been renamed Argos1. -Socrates finds all the original pieces in a shipyard and assembles them into a ship – Argos2
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A Puzzle About Identity Consider the three ships Argos, Argos1, and Argos2. -If Socrates had not reassembled the old parts to make Argos2, we would all say that Argos=Argos1. -But since he did assemble the parts, it is not easy to decide whether Argos1 or Argos2 is identical to the original Argos. -How would you decide?
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A Puzzle About Identity Consider the three ships Argos, Argos1, and Argos2. -If Socrates had not reassembled the old parts to make Argos2, we would all say that Argos=Argos1. -But since he did assemble the parts, it is not easy to decide whether Argos1 or Argos2 is identical to the original Argos. -How would you decide?
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“Oak Trees and Ships” John Locke (1632-1704) compared personal identity with identity across time in case of other organic things – e.g. plants or trees -to be same plant over time does not require same constituent parts -what it does require, thought Locke, is same organizational/functional structure -the same might hold for persons – i.e. we are same person over time if we preserve the same functional/organizational structure
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“Souls and Elastic Balls” -Blackburn argues that immaterial souls would not help us understand personal identity across time -we are able to count persons (as the same or different) without essential reference to immaterial souls -also, we know nothing about the nature of immaterial souls (what are they like?) -for all we know, they might be replaced every night as we sleep -the same does not hold for organizational/functional structure -the same does not hold for organizational/functional structure
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Personal Identity and Memory Locke argued that memory was necessary and sufficient for personal identity across time -A person, A, is the same as someone, B, at an earlier time if and only if A is conscious of B’s experiences (that is, if and only if A has memories of what B experienced) -a consequence of this is we cannot survive complete amnesia -also, in cases of partial amnesia, we would conclude that we are not same person
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Thomas Reid’s Objection Reid argued that Locke’s account was contradictory: -Consider three temporal stages of your life, A, B, and C. -Suppose you won a prize at A, and that you can remember this at B. -It follows that you are the same person at B that you were at A (A = B). -Suppose that at stage C, you can remember getting a job at stage B. -It follows that you are the same person at C that you were at B (B = C). -Suppose, finally, that at stage C, you can remember nothing about stage A. -It would therefore follow that you are not the same person at stage C that were at stage A. -But identity is a transitive relation (If A=B and B=C, then A=C) -Therefore, if Locke’s account is correct, at stage C you are not the same person as at stage A, but you also are the same person as at stage A.
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Hume’s Bundle Theory (Again) Hume argued that if you don’t observe the self in experience, then you’ve no right to say it exists. -the self, on Hume’s view, is just an aggregate of perceptions (content but no container) Problem: Can we really make sense of idea of “unowned” perceptions -perceptions seem to be features of persons; just like dents are features of, e.g., cars. -there certainly seems to be an I or ego that accompanies all perceptions (“I am currently aware of a pain in my back.” How would you say this without using egocentric words like “I” and “my”?)
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The Self as Organizing Principle of Experience We might respond to Hume by rejecting the idea that self must be something substantial which we observe in introspection. -Kant (1724-1804) argued that concept of a self was a necessary accompaniment of all experiences -all experiences require a point of view (an implicit reference to who it is that’s having the experience) -see pp.138-139 of Think
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