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1 1 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium6 Thoughts on the MS Network Research Workshop Fred Baker

2 2 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium6 Terrestrial Networks for Astronomic Research

3 3 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium Proposed Pulsar Research Model Bandwidth- engineered Path: >8 GBPS Internet path Servers at Swinburne Observatory Computation In PCs in High Schools

4 4 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium The Australian SKA Prototype One station of the proposed ~130 SKA stations in Australia 100 radio telescopes 100 sensors per telescope N 2 integration of sensor feeds Built by bringing lambdas from sensors to a grid correlator Every sensor output compared to every other Results stored, original data discarded after correlation

5 5 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium Let's talk about Marketing

6 6 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium Let’s talk a bit about marketing Definitions: Legacy The old thing that works that the marketer wants to displace Next-generation The new thing that doesn't quite work that the marketer wants to sell Argument style: Emphasize interesting points (cost differences, problems with “legacy”, cool features of “next generation” approach) Gloss over problems with new approach and strong points of the old one Examples: The Routing vs Ethernet Switching Wars The Frame Relay vs IP wars The ATM vs IP wars The QoS Wars The ATM vs MPLS wars

7 7 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium The common result: We use each technology for a purpose when it makes sense to use it How these are seen today: Tools in the toolbox Not competing technologies

8 8 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium Circuit-switch vs packet-switch question Variation on the Routing vs Ethernet Switching Question

9 9 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium Layer cake in the network Above Transport Internet Link Layer Intranet “Network of Networks”

10 10 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium IP Routing Internet Layer Used when Connecting things that one wishes to manage the connection of Crossing administrative boundaries Optimizing routing Organizing networks for maintenance The service: Isolation of domains of control for administrative purposes Conscious connection of domains across the administrative boundary

11 11 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium Ethernet switching and packet circuit switch technologies Intranet Layer Used when Connecting things that one wants to treat as connected Obscures routing Simplifies installation "Just works” The service: Circuit Switch delivers a single common service: Point to point connectivity, potentially on demand Administrative bounds at at a higher layer at endpoints of the circuit Ethernet switch interconnects groups of end systems

12 12 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium Lambda switching: Intranet layer (a form of circuit switch) Used when: High capacity is required Within an administrative domain Breaking out a lambda is justified Scaling of routing is not required Very reasonable place for circuit switching Circuit Switching? Not here!

13 13 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium The greybeard speaks

14 14 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium The arguments between Packet Switching at the Internet and Intranet layers, and Lambda Switching: Artificial Often essentially political My strong suggestion: For routing, community should use whatever technology meets its needs in each part of the network The community should refrain from trying to force one solution to meet all needs Make sure that your solutions meet the perceived needs not only of the users, but the operational staff that will be supporting them

15 15 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium The place of per-flow routing and management What ISP wants it? Cost in telephone system largely related to micromanagement of circuits (calls) There is a reason ISPs prefer management of aggregates There is a reason local calls are “paid for”, and national mobile telephone networks simply sell minutes Appropriate to large volume data flows that impose a separable cost to the network, such as perhaps lambdas

16 16 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium Network management architecture Network Management is something the industry has no idea how to do We manage configurations of devices and systems We monitor their behavior We try to diagnose faults, with mixed success Good suggestions that meet commercial needs are very welcome Has to address real network requirements Not just education or enterprise Not just small ISP

17 17 © 2006 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. MS Network Symposium6 Thoughts on the MS Network Research Workshop Fred Baker


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