1. through suffering, despair? euripides’ trojan women 2 Andromache and Astyanax

2. Agenda Class Project (cont.) Problem and Approach Recap and Update Euripides: A Different Kind of Tragedy? Tragedy in Performance (pp. 487 ff.) Is Talthybius a monster? 2-nov-20112 euripides trojan women

3. Class Project (cont.) Problem and Approach

4. Problem, Approach Approach: Critical Thinking Studied to learn… How to think Not how to pass Elements? Grasping problems And formulating questions?... Reading evidence text / subtext Anything else? applying what you already know thinking outside the box running the tests things to avoid Problem: Universal/Particular Nature of problem?… Questions to ask? My response to tragedy? (feelings, thoughts) Other?... 1-nov-20114 euripides trojan women

5. Recap and Update Euripides: A Different Kind of Tragedy?

6. Prologue (Signet pp. 460 ff.) Poseidon, Athena Lyric monody (464) Hecuba Parodos (465) Choruses in dialogue (kommos) Episode 1 (468) Talthybius, Hecuba Cassandra (lyric monody – frenzied dochmiacs) Cassandra, Hecuba Hecuba Stasimon 1 (480) Trojan Horse Episode 2 (481) Lyric dialogue (kommos): Hecuba, Andromache, Astyanax (silent) Episode 2 cont. (483) Spoken: Hecuba, Andromache Talthybius, Andromache, Astyanax (silent) Stasimon 2 (491) 1 st destruction of Troy Episode 3 (493) Menelaus, Hecuba Helen, Menelaus, Hecuba Agon: Helen, Hecuba Stasimon 3 (501) Women’s lament Exodos (503) Talthybius, Hecuba Lyric dialogue (kommos): Hecuba, Chorus Analysis

7. What is Tragic? Previous Sheer misfortune Origins, Bacchae imitation’s power Plato imitation’s dangers Aristotle imitation’s benefits Aeschylus-Herington formula, cycle, suffering, knowledge Sophoclean pessimism “Not to be born is best” (OAC) Euripides’ Trojan Women “Count no one happy till he is dead” (Hec. p. 479) “Fortune is the prey of whims” (Hec. p. 506) “... one who falls from happiness to tragedy …” (Andr. p. 484) 2-nov-20117 euripides trojan women

8. Tragic Woe Roche TranslationEuripides’ Greek HECUBA: Troy is gone. All joy is gone from me. ANDROMACHE: Tragedy. (p. 482) HEK. Bebak’ olbos, bebake Troia. ANDR. Tlamōn (“wretched”). (lines 582- 3) ANDROMACHE:... one who falls from happiness to tragedy is riven with regret and memories of blessedness. (p. 484) ANDR. Ho d’ eutukhēsas es to dustukhes (“misfortune”) pesōn psukhēn alatai tēs paroith’ eupraxias. (lines 639-40) HECUBA: For tragedy. LEADER: Overwhelming tragedy for you. (p. 508) HEK. Oimoi (“Oh woe!”). KHOR. Oimoi dēta sōn alastōn kakōn. (lines 1230-1) 2-nov-2011 euripides trojan women 8

9. Agōn (pp. 494 ff.) — Spectator Sport? Helen’s arguments Hecuba’s guilt as Paris’ mother Heroic opportunities Divine compulsion Hecuba’s arguments Bogus “judgment” Human decision Brazen collaboration 2-nov-20119 euripides trojan women Is that tragic?

10. Tragedy in Performance (pp. 487 ff.) Is Talthybius a monster?