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Road Map to a Green Tag Paperwork=Time=Money
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Questionnaire If you could change any one major thing inside the Fire Community Services process what would it be? If you could change any one major thing inside the Fire Community Services process what would it be? What part of the approval process is working pretty well and tell us why? What part of the approval process is working pretty well and tell us why? If there is something that could make it better still, what would it be? If there is something that could make it better still, what would it be? What part of the process is really broken and really needs to be fixed? What part of the process is really broken and really needs to be fixed? What would help make this problem area better? What would help make this problem area better? If you were head of the Fire Community Services Division, the first thing you would take care of would be… If you were head of the Fire Community Services Division, the first thing you would take care of would be…
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The Plan Submittal Process for New Stand Alone Buildings Building Plans including BTR required fire protection details are submitted for building permit Once building permit is issued the developer can begin building construction A permitted FP contractor must submit the “shop” drawings for approval prior to framing inspection Once approved these shop drawings are issued an installation permit.
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Plan Submittal Process for TI’s Building Plans including BTR required fire protection details and FP “shop” drawings are submitted for building permit Building permit and FP installation permit is issued concurrently and the developer can begin construction
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Why 2 Systems Does not hold up developers from breaking ground waiting for fire alarm drawings Does not hold up developers from breaking ground waiting for fire alarm drawings Reduces the opportunity for change orders by having the FP systems designed according to “approved” plans Reduces the opportunity for change orders by having the FP systems designed according to “approved” plans Provides Quality Control by ensuring that a “permitted” FP contractor is doing or at least responsible for the work. Provides Quality Control by ensuring that a “permitted” FP contractor is doing or at least responsible for the work. TI construction moves too fast to have FP installation drawings deferred TI construction moves too fast to have FP installation drawings deferred
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What is the BTR Board of Technical Registration Board of Technical Registration Regulates the Professional Registrants Regulates the Professional Registrants If a registrant feels that they are qualified to design the BTR allows them to do so If a registrant feels that they are qualified to design the BTR allows them to do so They only follow up after a complaint They only follow up after a complaint Sets Rules about what must be done by professional registrants Sets Rules about what must be done by professional registrants
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BTR Requirements Fire Alarm Fire Alarm Determine system type Determine system type Determine applicable codes Determine applicable codes Determine device type and locations Determine device type and locations Prepare generalized riser diagram Prepare generalized riser diagram Coordinate interface with other systems Coordinate interface with other systems Develop system specifications Develop system specifications
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NFPA 72 requirements 4.3.2 System Designer. 4.3.2 System Designer. 4.3.2.1 Fire alarm system plans and specifications shall be developed in accordance with this Code by persons who are experienced in the proper design, application, installation, and testing of fire alarm systems. 4.3.2.1 Fire alarm system plans and specifications shall be developed in accordance with this Code by persons who are experienced in the proper design, application, installation, and testing of fire alarm systems. 4.3.2.2 The system designer shall be identified on the system design documents. Acceptable evidence of qualifications or certification shall be provided when requested by the authority having jurisdiction. Qualified personnel shall include, but not be limited to, one or more of the following: 4.3.2.2 The system designer shall be identified on the system design documents. Acceptable evidence of qualifications or certification shall be provided when requested by the authority having jurisdiction. Qualified personnel shall include, but not be limited to, one or more of the following: (1) Personnel who are factory trained and certified for fire alarm system design of the specific type and brand of system being designed (1) Personnel who are factory trained and certified for fire alarm system design of the specific type and brand of system being designed (2)* Personnel who are certified by a nationally recognized fire alarm certification organization acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction. (2)* Personnel who are certified by a nationally recognized fire alarm certification organization acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction. (3) Personnel who are registered, licensed, or certified by a state or local authority (3) Personnel who are registered, licensed, or certified by a state or local authority
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BTR Requirements Sprinkler Systems Sprinkler Systems Consider the range of hazards of the project Consider the range of hazards of the project Prepare a hazard analysis Prepare a hazard analysis Identify the hazard classification Identify the hazard classification Special hazards Special hazards Determine applicable codes Determine applicable codes Ascertain the availability and adequacy of the water supply Ascertain the availability and adequacy of the water supply Determine appropriate design density and area of operation for each hazard Determine appropriate design density and area of operation for each hazard
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City of Peoria Fire Code Section 105.7.13.2 Any person, corporation, partnership or other entity engaged in the business of design, install, monitor, sell, or service within the City of Peoria shall, obtain a permit from the Fire Department. The permit application shall include the following: Copy of State and City license, and Copy of Certification. Section 105.7.13.2 Any person, corporation, partnership or other entity engaged in the business of design, install, monitor, sell, or service within the City of Peoria shall, obtain a permit from the Fire Department. The permit application shall include the following: Copy of State and City license, and Copy of Certification.
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Fire Alarm Installation Must be directly supervised by a Must be directly supervised by a NICET II person NICET II person CSA Certified person CSA Certified person
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Sprinkler Installation Must be directly supervised by Must be directly supervised by CSA Certified person CSA Certified person
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Submitted Questions/Concerns Lead Time – Lead Time – Average turn-around time for 2006 was 11 days Average turn-around time for 2006 was 11 days Duct detector test report – Duct detector test report – If duct detectors are required and were included in the design they must be functional at time of final fire alarm test. If duct detectors are required and were included in the design they must be functional at time of final fire alarm test. Electrical inspections not conducted until fire alarm drawings are approved – Electrical inspections not conducted until fire alarm drawings are approved – Once this inspection is conducted the sheetrock goes on and everything is covered up. Once this inspection is conducted the sheetrock goes on and everything is covered up.
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Submitted Questions/Concerns Move in ready suite designs incur additional step/penalty – Move in ready suite designs incur additional step/penalty – If no walls are being moved or added there is no need for FP plans If no walls are being moved or added there is no need for FP plans Fire inspection conducted for a tenant and the tenant was billed. Land lord did not call for an inspection and an inspection was not required at that time. Fire inspection conducted for a tenant and the tenant was billed. Land lord did not call for an inspection and an inspection was not required at that time. A final fire inspection on a newly constructed building or TI is not the same as the annual fire inspection process A final fire inspection on a newly constructed building or TI is not the same as the annual fire inspection process
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Submitted Questions/Concerns Is the problem with the fire protection systems with the design or with the contractor – Is the problem with the fire protection systems with the design or with the contractor – First the design must be correct then we hold the contractor accountable. First the design must be correct then we hold the contractor accountable. Moved the issues from the final inspection to the beginning of the process. Moved the issues from the final inspection to the beginning of the process.
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Submitted Questions/Concerns What are the issues that the plans examiners seeing between the conceptual and shop drawings? What are the issues that the plans examiners seeing between the conceptual and shop drawings? Some engineers send in more details than what is required. Some engineers send in more details than what is required. Engineer’s drawings are general device information Engineer’s drawings are general device information Many times does not have access to manufacturer’s information (proprietary) Many times does not have access to manufacturer’s information (proprietary) Lacks specific code knowledge Lacks specific code knowledge The installing contractor needs to submit drawings that are for the specific system being installed The installing contractor needs to submit drawings that are for the specific system being installed Wiring methods Wiring methods System specific nuances System specific nuances Device loads Device loads They have the required permit to do the work They have the required permit to do the work
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Submitted Questions/Concerns What is driving this requirement? What is driving this requirement? Failure rates of New Fire Alarm Installations Failure rates of New Fire Alarm Installations 70% 70% EFO research EFO research
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Submitted Questions/Concerns Peoria is the only City with these requirements Peoria is the only City with these requirements MesaSurpriseScotts.SednaKingmn.Glend.Presct. State FM Do you allow deferred submittals?Yes NoYes Do you require shop drawings to be submitted and approved prior to installation?NoYes
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Tools for the Customer E-news E-news Submittal Checklists Submittal Checklists New stand alone New stand alone TI TI Plan Review Guide for Engineering Design Plan Review Guide for Engineering Design Fire Inspection Checklist for New Constructrion Fire Inspection Checklist for New Constructrion
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Questionnaire If you could change any one major thing inside the Fire Community Services process what would it be? If you could change any one major thing inside the Fire Community Services process what would it be? What part of the approval process is working pretty well and tell us why? What part of the approval process is working pretty well and tell us why? If there is something that could make it better still, what would it be? If there is something that could make it better still, what would it be? What part of the process is really broken and really needs to be fixed? What part of the process is really broken and really needs to be fixed? What would help make this problem area better? What would help make this problem area better? If you were head of the Fire Community Services Division, the first thing you would take care of would be… If you were head of the Fire Community Services Division, the first thing you would take care of would be… The End The End
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