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AS9104-3 Report Jan 18, 2012 San Diego, CA. Team Members  Will Tate (TL), Triumph Aerostructures – Vought Aircraft Division  Jeff Wood  Rick Downs,

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1 AS9104-3 Report Jan 18, 2012 San Diego, CA

2 Team Members  Will Tate (TL), Triumph Aerostructures – Vought Aircraft Division  Jeff Wood  Rick Downs, Cessna-Textron  Vince May, Honeywell  Ian Folland  Tony Marino, Boeing  Ian Dummigan  Dominique Thiault  Lisa Greenleaf  Jeffery Long, UTC (Pratt & Whitney)  Reg Blake, IAAR   Shuji Komori   Giuseppe Leoni   Kimberly Maggie   Ron Tharach   Frank Phillips, RABQSA

3 AA Authentication 4 audits comprising 20 on-site auditor days QMS/AQMS audits 2 audits may exclude design (7.3) QMS Lead Auditor course AQMS Foundation Course (AATT) Audit Competency Demonstration CB Process AAB Process AEA Authentication 4 audits comprising 20 on-site auditor days QMS/AQMS audits within 3 yrs 2 audits may exclude design (7.3) QMS/AQMS Lead Auditor course AQMS Foundation Course (AATT) within 3 yrs 2/10 years ASD experience minimum Technical Competence evaluated by CB –process approved by AB Auditor Competency Demonstration after successful technical evaluation New Auditor

4 AA AEA Expansion 150 on-site audit days of an AQMS in 5 yr or 250 on-site audit days of an AQMS in 10 yr Equivalent to full time relevant full time exp. @ 2.5/5 days/Mo. Technical Competence evaluated by CB approved by AB Auditor Competency evaluation (CB or AAB) Re-authentication every 5 yrs Re-authentication Every 5 yrs Same criteria as initial authentication Attendance at one SMS auditor workshop during re-authentication period Decision made by AAB, no SMS concurrence Suspension / Withdrawal Not fulfilling AS9104-1/3 reqmts AQMS authentication contains false info Falsified audit findings Actions that would bring ICOP into dispute Not informing AAB of a previous rejection, suspension, or withdrawal from another AAB Decision for suspension, AAB will determine conditions of suspension

5 Training Provider Requirements QMS Administrative Procedures Security Record Retention Complaints and appeals Confidentiality Course configuration mgmt (changes) Course Variations TP Suspension and withdrawal TPAB Requirements Record retention requirements Training Courses requirements 75% exam grade on essay questions Requirements for training instructors AAB requirements Guidance on assessment Principles and Practices Additional Requirements contained within AS9104/3 Draft

6 Additional Document Contents Evaluator Qualification – –Training reqmts of AA/AEA – –Demonstrated knowledge of AQMS standard(s) – –Demonstrated knowledge of assessment principles and practices – –Continuing experience in 5yr period: 3 competency evaluations, 15 hrs of continuing education related to ASD Annex A – Detaliled reqmts for Training Courses Annex B – Definition of Competencies for ASD: AA and AEA Annex C – AEA Technical Knowledge Annex D – Guidance on Assessment Principles and Practices

7 Standard competency evaluation Checklist would be beneficial AAB resource issues with oversight of CB evaluation Process Need for AAB to offer alternative to CB evaluation Process Evaluate methodology to allow non-authenticated auditors provisional status to conduct evaluation audit – similar to ISO 17021 Resources required to develop approved “Evaluators” Need to add process for AABs to communicate applicant rejection info to other AABs Additional competencies for ASD above those identified in ISO 17021 Clearly define re-authentication audit “participation” activities Ensure that training certification expirations are defined. Feedback and Issues

8 Next Steps Complete ASD unique competencies Clearly define Requirements for evaluating competencies Define entities who can conduct competency evaluations Ensure coordination with information in New AS9104-1/2

9 Questions and Thoughts


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