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1 Millennium Data Dissemination 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar1 possible extensions how ambitious can/should we be?

2 Raw data: Particles FOF groups and Subhalos Density fields Subhalo merger trees Synthetic galaxies (SAM) Mock catalogues Mock images 2012-12-17Millennium Workshop2

3 SUBFIND Tree Builder Halo Merger Trees SAM SSP FOF Group Finder (Sub-)HalosFOF Groups Simulation Particles Gadget MoMaF’ SAM Galaxies Light-cone Galaxies SkyMaker’SExtractor Synthetic Images SExtractor Catalogues PSF, Noise, Background Scaling IGM MRObs 2012-12-17Millennium Workshop3

4 Raw data Serve particles from Millennium simulations –10 billion/snapshot, ~25TB from database? –with spatial queries –links to halos/FOF groups through JobRunner services –cutout –gridding + FFTs etc 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar4

5 Other simulations? Hydro Example: –http://gavo.mpa-garching.mpg.de/HydroClustershttp://gavo.mpa-garching.mpg.de/HydroClusters –online visualisation: http://galformod.mpa- garching.mpg.de/phoxybrowser http://galformod.mpa- garching.mpg.de/phoxybrowser Others –Millennium+gas? –Eagle –… How? –In DB ok for objects –Visualisation support for “fluffy things” 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar5

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7 SUBFIND Tree Builder Halo Merger Trees SAM SSP FOF Group Finder (Sub-)HalosFOF Groups Simulation Particles Gadget MoMaF’ SAM Galaxies Light-cone Galaxies SkyMaker’SExtractor Synthetic Images SExtractor Catalogues PSF, Noise, Background Scaling IGM MRObs 2012-12-17Millennium Workshop7

8 Group catalogs Have –FOF –SUBFIND subhalos –Mhalo merger trees –Dhalo merger trees More properties –shapes, density profiles (ala AIP, or ala MR-XXL): good for lensing –others? More? –BDM, NEXUS, ORIGAMI, … –All of Knebe etal LSS objects? –Voids, filaments, walls in the DB –“more precise” environmental queries possible –per grid cell or as object (“stacking voids”) 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar8

9 SUBFIND Tree Builder Halo Merger Trees SAM SSP FOF Group Finder (Sub-)HalosFOF Groups Simulation Particles Gadget MoMaF’ SAM Galaxies Light-cone Galaxies SkyMaker’SExtractor Synthetic Images SExtractor Catalogues PSF, Noise, Background Scaling IGM MRObs 2012-12-17Millennium Workshop9

10 SAM catalogues More models –Durham, MPA Complete MR-XXL? –~200x Millennium, 80TB Extensions 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar10

11 SFH-s Allows SEDs from post-processing how to store? –rows vs arrays (in SQLServer) –functions (easy in SQLServer): create spectra –“exact” observer frame bands PCA amplitudes in the database –find nearby galaxies for given observed spectrum 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar11

12 SAM online GALFORM online !!! –http://galformod.mpa-garching.mpg.de/dev/jobrunner/http://galformod.mpa-garching.mpg.de/dev/jobrunner/ –on millimil Do we want others? –Galacticus? Need constraints, validated models. –How afraid should we be of “bad science”? SAM online on Millennium? –input to MRObs pipeline 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar12

13 SUBFIND Tree Builder Halo Merger Trees SAM SSP FOF Group Finder (Sub-)HalosFOF Groups Simulation Particles Gadget MoMaF’ SAM Galaxies Light-cone Galaxies SkyMaker’ SExtractor Synthetic Images SExtractor Catalogues PSF, Noise, Background Scaling IGM MRObs 2012-12-17Millennium Workshop13

14 Light cones In Database: not just from MPA! –common model –linked to SAMs More –deep: new code for Millennium-II –all sky: MR-XXL –with scaling! What properties needed? –who wants them? –what for (lensing?)? Light cone building online –Will soon make our MoMaF available on JobRunner –new code in preparation (for MR-II etc) 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar14

15 SUBFIND Tree Builder Halo Merger Trees SAM SSP FOF Group Finder (Sub-)HalosFOF Groups Simulation Particles Gadget MoMaF’ SAM Galaxies Light-cone Galaxies SkyMaker’ SExtractor Synthetic Images SExtractor Catalogues PSF, Noise, Background Scaling IGM MRObs 2012-12-17Millennium Workshop15

16 MRObs Store of images will keep growing –Overzier! Create images on demand –telescope models custom? Post processing as well? –Sextractor –other? Improvement galaxy images –realistic structure (weak lensing systematics, strong lensing structure) –from simulations ? –form observations? 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar16

17 SUBFIND Tree Builder Halo Merger Trees SAM SSP FOF Group Finder (Sub-)HalosFOF Groups Simulation Particles Gadget MoMaF’ SAM Galaxies Light-cone Galaxies SkyMaker’ SExtractor Synthetic Images SExtractor Catalogues PSF, Noise, Background Scaling IGM MRObs 2012-12-17Millennium Workshop17 Lensing

18 Under construction –with Ben Metcalf Online? –Why not, JobRunner will handle it. How much? –what is required for weak lensing? 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar18

19 Even more L-Galaxies online++ –updating physics modules? –MCMC mode? Dark matter light cones? –for lensing –what do we need? particles, fields? Interface –dashboard (M.Egger) –improve SQL interface (Roys talk) 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar19

20 Galformod infrastructure Currently –12+1 12-core nodes –180 TB raw storage –20TB DB storage What do others have? –AIP ~500TB –JHU ~5PB (?) What do we want? 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar20

21 What do we want need? Depends on answers to all previous questions What can we afford? –Where can we get the money? Where do we put “it”? –RZG? Pool our resources together? –beyond mirror –distributed over Virgo nodes? Larger scale collaborations (EUDat)? –see Hermann’s talk 2012-11-26MPA institute seminar21


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