1. Who cares about abuse? Rodney Tillotson, JANET-CERT APNIC, August 2001 United Kingdom Education & Research Networking Association

2. Three points UBE is like other abuse Only global consensus will stop it We would like to talk with AP

3. RIPE Réseaux IP Européens Anti-spam Working Group WG chair

4. RIPE view Originate no spam Persuade originators to stop Block and filter

5. Originate no spam Contracts with customers Penalties available Act on reports of abuse RIPE-206 http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-206.html

6. Problems Free accounts Cybercafé use Competitive advantage

7. Block and filter Local choice MAPS Other blacklists Outbound blocks

8. Filtering Content-based Subjective, always changing Can help with other abuse –Viruses, porn

9. DNS blacklists Test IP addresses Hooks in most mailers –(but not Exchange) Getting on/off the list –Who decides?

10. Other public blacklists ORBS not now operating Several others –A variety of behaviours

11. MAPS Paul Vixie, Dave Rand Highly respected Thorough, not fast –Will let through some spam Pressure on originators http://mail-abuse.org/

12. MAPS update Subscription only from 1 Aug 2001 Costs –DNS operation –List management –Legal http://mail-abuse.org/feestructure.html

13. UBE What is spam? –Usenet Unsolicited Bulk E-mail

14. Pressure on originators RBL –Realtime Blackhole List Focus for consensus and conflict –Advice on good practice

15. Other abuse The issues are the same Consensus is better Compliance is about the same

16. Who said this? I dont want to report spam to the spammers ISP. I want to report it to my own ISP, or if I am an ISP then I want to report it to my own peers. They ought to verify my identity and the complaint format and then pitch it on to their peers or upstreams or customers or whatever and so on …

17. Who said this? … until it finally gets to the owner of the the address space which is being abused. If that owner wont act, then they ought to lose peering or be dropped as a customer or whatever, because the standard contracts among Internet peers and between customers and their ISPs ought to require proper response.

18. Who said this? Paul Vixie –To a private list, June 2001 –(quoted with permission)

19. UBE issues with AP US is the major source Many relays in AP –Increased early 2000 Little response from abuse@domain abuse@domain

20. Code Red Many sources in AP –Fewer in US (still too many) Unclear where to report it Lots in JANET, too!

21. JANET-CERT Coordinate security responses http://www.ja.net/CERT/ Contacts at customer sites Network blocks if needed Contacts with other CSIRTs

23. Other CSIRTs FIRST http://www.first.org/ TERENA Trusted Introducer http://www.ti.terena.nl/

24. AP CSIRTs Useful responses from AP CSIRTs –AUS-CERT, JP-CERT, KR-CERT etc Whois data usually available –Not easy to find abuse contact

25. My guess Fast-growing networks and user communities –Support lags behind –Many small companies Expectations are different Guidance is in (bad) English

26. Those points again UBE is like other abuse Only global consensus will stop it We would like to talk with AP

27. My questions How should we make contact? What problems do you have with the RIPE region? Do we need a new forum? How can we help? Who cares about abuse?

28. Your questions?

29. Thank you! Rodney Tillotson senior JANET-CERT member Rodney.Tillotson@ukerna.ac.uk +44 1235 822 255