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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 1 Joint 3GPP & TISPAN Workshop on NGN-IMS - NGN-IMS issues handling - Alain Le Roux (France Telecom), TISPAN Chairman alainxavier.leroux@francetelecom.com Magnus Olsson (Ericsson), 3GPP SA2 Chairman magnus.m.olsson@ericsson.com
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 2 Agenda 1.Approval of agenda and Documents(s1) 2.Workshop objectives(s1) 3.3GPP and TISPAN organisation(s1) 4.NGN Architecture & Release 1 definition (s2) 5.IMS architecture and capabilities(s2) 6.Issues related to reuse of IMS for NGN(s3-s4) 7.Support of PSTN/ISDN service emulation (s5) 8.Ongoing activities and Workplan(s5) 9.Future cooperation/interactions(s6) 10.Wrap-up and closure(s6)
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 3 List of Issues and Resolution (1) (6.1) UICC in NGN Current 3GPP Specefications assumes that a physical UICC is present in the 3GPP UE TISPAN is invated to evaluate if it is acceptable to require that a physical UICC is also required for an NGN UE If it is not acceptable TISPAN needs to come back to 3GPP whith clear requirements/proposals (6.1) Local Access Network with NATand/or Firewall Not addressed in 3GPP IETF is working on solutions TISPAN WG2 and 3GPP SA2 should address this issue
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 4 List of Issues and Resolution (2) (6.2) IMS enablers General agreement that TISPAN shall reuse the IMS enablers like Presence, Messaging, Group Management and Conferencing. It was agreed that NGN should attempt to make URIs used in SIP (except tel:) personal to the user rather than the device It was proposed that NGN should make use of capability to indicate presence capabilities is mobile/fixed as appropriate (TISAPN WG2 and WG3 to discuss, 3GPP CN1 to assist if necessary) Does NGN need a specified interface between the MRFC and MRFP (TISPAN WG2, 3GPP CN3, R6 existing WID) If NGN intend to place NATs or firewalls in the media path, then they will need to specify message relays (TISPAN WG1&2, 3GPP SA2)
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 5 List of Issues and Resolution (3) (6.3) Security requirements and solutions Work ongoing in TISPAN WG7 No specific issues raised in the input contribution 3GPP SA3 is the main contact point on security issues in 3GPP
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 6 List of Issues and Resolution (4) (6.4) Collection of data for the purpose of Charging No modifications of the information in the 3GPP CDRs was seen as necessary TISPAN will investigate if and how data related to the access (line) needs to be captured 3GPP SA5, TISPAN WG1 Codec 3GPP assumes AMR as the default Codec. TISPAN to consider the implications, and communicate with 3GPP Need to define default Video-Codec support
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 7 List of Issues and Resolutions (5) 6.5 Bearer QoS classes QoS Class support definition and mapping (with IMS ones and Y.1541) is required for fixed NGN (TISPAN WG5) TISPAN WG5 to make a proposal and then communicate with 3GPP SA2 6.6 Gq Interface TISPAN_NGN to proceed with Gq proposed extensions TISPAN WG2 (Requirements) and WG3 (Prorocols) to communicate with 3GPP CN3
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 8 List of Issues and Resolutions (6) 6.7 Services issues Non-issue for 3GPP But TISPAN WG1 will further look at service capabilities inherently provided by SIP TISPAN WG1 to communicate with 3GPP SA2 (and CN1) 6.10 SIP Profile All requirements to be reviewed by TISPAN_NGN Main issues: SIP authentication, need to support IPv4, pre- conditions, Overlap sending? All others to be confirmed by TISPAN WG2&3 TISPAN WG2&3 to communicate the requirements to SA2 and CN1
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 9 IMS Applications Issues (7) Based on TD015r1 Presence TISPAN_NGN to attempt making URIs used in SIP (except tel:) personal to the user rather than the device. TISPAN WG4 to communicate deliberations to 3GPP CN1 NGN to identify its own work for delivering information from presence-unrelated entities to the PNA TISPAN WG1&2 (then WG3) to communicate deliberations to 3GPP CN1 NGN to decide if the current range of elements within the PIDF definition is sufficient for NGN usage. any additional specification will need to be done via CN1 by IETF (and then used by other groups) Conferencing NGN need to open any of the interfaces that are currently not specified ? TISPAN WG4 to communicate deliberations to 3GPP CN1
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 10 IMS Applications Issues (8) Based on TD015r1 Messaging The relationship between FMMS and IMS messaging is important to be clarified in NGN If NGN places NATs or firewalls in the media path, then there will need to specify message relays (R6 does not use message relays) TISPAN WG1&2 to communicate deliberations to SA2 (&CN1) Other Applications Scope exists for 3 rd party definition of capabilities, as well as providing services directly to end users (Identity redirection services like number portability, Prepay charging services) TISPAN WG1 to consider own Applications opportunities OSA/Parlay can provide applications Effective coordination arrangements already in place
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 11 3GPP/WLAN interworking reuse for NGN access independence (9) Based on TD09 Proposal to adopt the concepts of WLAN/3GPP interworking as the basis to achieve true access independence in NGN, considering that Access independence is one of the NGN central requirements True access independence requires a generic approach, which decouples NGN core network components and procedures as much as possible from the subtleties of access technologies 3GPP is on the way to standardize with Release 6 WLAN/3GPP interworking that allows 3GPP terminals to access a 3GPP IMS via WLAN The concepts of WLAN/3GPP interworking do not rely on the specifics of the WLAN access network TISPAN WG2 & 7 to examine the proposal, in light of its relationship with the ANAS (Access Network Attachment) and RACS (Resource & Admission Control) functions the WLAN access architecture to NGN Contributions welcome to help quick decision making.
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 12 NGN-IMS Issues resolution TISPAN to review and consolidate requirements, e.g. Clarify requirements for non-UICC support Support of IPv4 SIP Profile requirements for xDSL access to IMS Gq extensions for NGN QoS Class and Default codecs support TISPAN to consider collocating relevant WG meetings with 3GPP SA2 and CN1 when appropriate With SA2 to address: QoS Class mapping WLAN access architecture With SA1/2/3 to address: UICC/USIM/ISIM support issues With CN1 to address: SIP Profile requirements IMS Applications issues With CN3 to discuss Gq extensions
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22-23 June 2004TISPAN-3GPP Workshop - Sophia-Antipolis 13 Next steps TISPAN actions To prepare a Document defining reuse of IMS (R6) in NGN Release 1 (all aspects and relevant TSs) To communicate with relevant 3GPP TSGs To collocate relevant WG and 3GPP TSGs when and where appropriate 3GPP actions Consider WIDs to support Fixed NGN requirements (refer to TD17r1) Joint actions A further Workhop February/March 2005 To discuss IMS and NGN related issues A TISPAN & 3GPP common (publicly open) NGN-IMS mailing list (for info/organisational purpose)
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