1. Rio Group Information and Feedback on the Compendium of Good Practices Zélia Magalhães Bianchini Deputy Director of Surveys e-mail: zbianchi@ibge.gov.br Expert Group Meeting on the Handbook on Poverty Statistics – UNSD, United Nations – New York 28-30 June 2005

2. Rio Group - Background information UN Statistical Commission in 1996 approved the recommendation to establish an Expert Group on Poverty Statistics (Rio Group) Rio Group is chaired by IBGE with ECLAC acting as Executive Secretary The meetings were an opportunity for many countries to present and compare their experiences and methodologies in measuring and analyzing the situation of poverty in their different aspects

3. Rio Group - M ost relevant conditions established to accept a measurement as practice The estimates are the responsibility of a public or private (academic) institution The estimates are public and available to the media The estimates are periodic permitting a comparable series The methodologies used are available for the public Well-known sources of information are available for the public.

4. Expert Group on Poverty Statistics Meetings First meeting: Santiago, 7-9 May 1997 Second meeting: Rio de Janeiro, 13-15 May 1998 Third meeting: Lisbon, 22-24 November 1999 Fourth meeting: Rio de Janeiro, 15-17 October 2001 Fifth Meeting Rio de Janeiro, 13-15 November, 2002 Sixth Meeting, Rio de Janeiro, 12-14 November 2003 Seventh Meeting, Rio de Janeiro, 6-8 December 2004

5. Expert Group on Poverty Statistics Participants Countries: 22 Argentina, Australia, Belarus, Botswana, Brazil, Canada, Chile, France, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Netherlands, Nigeria, Peru, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Turkey, Uruguay, United Kingdom, United States of America.

6. Expert Group on Poverty Statistics Agencies and others institutions: 18 Centro Latinoamericano de Demografía (CELADE/ ECLAC) Economic Commission for Africa (ECA) Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC) Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific (ESCAP) Economic Commission for Europe (ECE) EUROSTAT Human Science Research Council Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) International Labor Organization (ILO) London School of Economics and Political Science

7. Expert Group on Poverty Statistics Agencies and others institutions: 18 Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development Paris 21 Pan American Health Organization/World Health Organization (PAHO/WHO) Townsend Center for International Poverty Research The World Bank (BIRD) United Nations Latin American and Caribbean Institute for Economic and Social Planning United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) United Nations Population Fund (UNPF) United Nations Statistics Division (UNSD)

8. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Summary Introduction 2. Absolute Poverty 3. NBI / DI - Unsatisfied Basic Needs / Deprivation Indicators 4. Integrated Approach 5. Relative Poverty 6. Subjective Poverty Conclusions

9. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Framework of chapters A. Introduction Concepts and methods B.Standards and resources Standards Resources for meeting standards Sources of information C. Availability of periodic calculations D. Technical characteristics: Similarity and differences among estimates E. Challenges, options and shortcomings

10. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Introduction It covers two main distinctive purposes: –it explains the content of the compendium, making clear the Rio Group limitations and its scope of countries coverage –it presents a conceptual and historical approach of poverty

11. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Chapter 2 - Absolute Poverty In this chapter Canada, USA and ECLAC experiences are well covered It is necessary to work better the aspects of income and consumption showing the differences between the notion of expenditure and consumption. As the structure of the chapter should be representative of the majority of international practices, a “box” is being prepared relating the most important experiences.

12. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Chapter 3 - UNB / DI (Unsatisfied Basic Needs / Deprivation Indicators) This chapter gives a good framework about Basic Needs practices although the experiences are mostly related to Latin American countries. An international approach will be added. As a complementary approach, a “box” will be included with some practices based on multi- dimensional indicators such as HDI.

13. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Chapter 4 - Integrated Approach The draft we have is specific of the British experience (even though it is an official measurement in Ireland) It will be included details of how income and deprivation indicators are combined to measure poverty by Ireland and UK The method should be described in more general terms Some steps of the deprivation index will be more clarified Others experiences must be added such as Kaztman y Boltvinik as well as the World Bank proposal to measure income integrating the information of surveys and Census

14. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Chapter 5 - Relative Poverty This chapter describes mainly the EUROSTAT practices Other practices will be included Calculations, similarities, differences, options and challenges comments will be more developed

15. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Chapter 6 - Subjective Poverty The draft of this chapter it been done by ECLAC It is mostly used as a complementary method to objective and relative measurement In this sense, this method has a different status in relation to the others, since it is not officially used by any country

16. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Conclusions There will be 2 or 3 parts. The idea is to establish a connection between methods and policies and international comparisons. ECLAC is in charge of the strategies of information.

17. Rio Group - Compendium of Good Practices Next Steps Preliminary version - July / August 2005 Comments by experts - September 2005 Revision by IBGE and ECLAC - October 2005 Editing - November 2005

18. Expert Group on Poverty Statistics Background documents (7 meetings) IBGE http://www.ibge.gov.br/poverty UNSD - http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/citygroup/rio.ht m