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1 Ensemble Predictions: Understanding Uncertainties Lars Landberg Wind Energy Department Risø National Laboratory DTU Denmark Gregor Giebel, Jake Badger, Risø National Laboratory DTU Henrik Aalborg Nielsen, Torben Skov Nielsen, Henrik Madsen, Pierre Pinson, IMM DTU Kai Sattler, Henrik Feddersen, Henrik Vedel, Danish Meteorological Institute

2 Contents Where do we come from? Two new things: Ensemble forecasts More than one NWP Conclusions

3 About forecasts Good to know: the expected production Even better to know: the uncertainty NWP Obs Model Output: Production Uncertainty

4 In the ”old” days (late 90’ties!)

5 The idea of ensembles / Spaghetti plot An ensemble of multiple forecasts, done from different initial conditions, or different numerical models / model runs, should give a measure of forecast uncertainty Assumption: There is a connection between spread and skill

6 Ensemble predictions Ensembles try to catch more of the variety of the weather “Proper” ensembles – deliver plume of possible futures Multi-model ensembles: can increase accuracy Connection between spread & skill? Might be better use of computer resources Source: NCEP/NCAR

7 2 “proper” ensembles ECMWF: 51 members, up to 10 days ahead, global domain, made by adding singular vectors NCEP/NCAR: 12 members, up to 84 hours ahead, global domain, made through bred modes resolution (both): 80 km Variables: wind (speed and dir) @10m

8 PSO-Ensemble project 3-year Danish national project (now finished) Uses ECMWF and NCEP ensembles Risø, IMM, DMI + Danish utilities Ensembles = same meteo model, many slightly different runs -> finds many probable futures -> uncertainty bands Important result: The quantiles as coming from the ensembles are not directly applicable as power quantiles! Demo ran 1 year (using ECMWF) and counting, used for trading over weekend, weekly fuel demand forecasts and for maintenance / power plant repair scheduling

9 Visualisation: All members Shows all the 51 ECMWF members without transformation The black line is the control run (the best guess of ECMWF)

10 Visualisation: most quantiles Showing most derived and transformed quantiles between 5% and 95% Too much spread to be useful at a glance (outer quantiles are doubtful)

11 Visualisation: only 25 and 75 % Only central quantiles

12 PSO-Ensemble, unadjusted quantiles!!

13 PSO-Ensemble, adjusted quantiles

14 How to use a quantile forecast Informal Is the forecast uncertain or not? Can we be “sure” to have more than 50% of installed capacity? If we need to take out a conventional plant for revision within the next week when should we do that? Formal Given up- and down-regulation costs the quantile c up /(c up + c down ) should be used as the bid on the spot market. If we have many quantiles (the full p.d.f.) the optimal bid can be derived from any cost function.

15 Are the quantiles reliable? E.g. is the actual production below the 25% quantile in 25% of the cases? Can be checked by grouping the data (here: by horizon).

16 Accuracy of quantiles Deviations up to 5%, but often less. Some curvature; can presumably be removed by tuning of the model.

17 More than one NWP forecast

18 Doubling the number of NWP Used DMI and DWD for six test cases in Denmark Result: the combination of inputs is better SyltholmFjaldene MiddelgrundenKlim Hagesholm Tunø Knob G. Giebel, A. Boone: A Comparison of DMI-Hirlam and DWD-Lokalmodell for Short-Term Forecasting. Poster on the EWEC, London, Nov 2004

19 Conclusions Ensemble predictions can not be used directly as a measure of the error Errors are modelled much better if ensemble predictions are used Two NWP forecasts improve the predictions by more than 1 m/s! In general: we are getting much better af predicting the power output


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