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Steven Goldfarb LCG RTAG 12 CERN – 1 June 2004 LCG RTAG 12: Collaborative Tools Interim Report
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 2 Organization Web site: http://cern.ch/muondoc/rtag12http://cern.ch/muondoc/rtag12 Archived Mailing List: project-lcg-rtag-collab@cern.chproject-lcg-rtag-collab@cern.ch List of Members: http://cern.ch/muondoc/rtag12/Membershttp://cern.ch/muondoc/rtag12/Members Meeting Schedule: http://cern.ch/muondoc/rtag12/Meetingshttp://cern.ch/muondoc/rtag12/Meetings Meetings Weekly Meetings Wed 16:00-18:00 in 513-1-024 (VRVS) First Meeting was March 31 Presentations Thus Far (backwards chronologically): Atlas Feedback (19-may-2004) - S. Goldfarb Why did the EU FR6 Bid Fail to Run? (12-may-2004) - R. Jones Overview of Videoconferencing at CERN (05-may-2004) - C. Isnard Collaborative Scenario (28-apr-2004) - T. Pace VC in HEP (Besides VRVS) (28-apr-2004) - C. Helft VRVS Research Roadmap (21-apr-2004) - Ph. Galvez Introductory Comments (31-mar-2004)- S. Goldfarb Proposal to PEB for RTAG (12-jan-2004) - D. Barberis RTAG 12 Activities
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 3 Composition of RTAG 12 ParticipantInstituteRepresenting Peter HristovCERN-PH/AIPAlice Steven Goldfarb (chair)University of MichiganAtlas Roger JonesLancaster UniversityAtlas Bolek WyslouchMITCMS Ian McArthurUniversity of OxfordLHCb Gerhard RavenNIKHEFLHCb Tony DoyleUniversity of GlasgowGridPP Philippe GalvezCalTechVRVS Christian HelftLAL - IN2P3 (Orsay)HTASC-CSMM Alberto PaceCERN-IT/IS David FosterCERN-IT/CS Mick StorrCERN-HR/PMDTraining Les Robertson (ex-officio)CERN-IT/DILCG-PEB
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 4 LHC Needs The LHC is the IDEAL Example of the Case for Collaborative Tools Large, Diverse, Dispersed Collaborations Common Project Requiring Close Coordination Long Duration: Need for Maintenance, Training The Demands for Collaborative Tools are Growing Quickly Testing, Commissioning of Detectors Software Development, Grid Use Super Brief Summary of Meeting Room Needs Quality Videoconferencing in Every Meeting Room at CERN Complementary / Backup System of Phone Conferencing High Resolution Document Sharing (Read Only) Easy-To-Use (Uniform) Systems CERN-based Service Technical Support (Potentially for Every Meeting) R & D (Technical Assessment) Preliminary Findings
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 5 CERN Status Minimal Maintenance Mode Since 2000 Gradual Aging of Existing Facilities New Facilities Only for Budget Codes Each Room Different, Maintenance Stretched Thin Minimal Assessment of QA/QC Audio Quality Very Bad in Some Cases Many Small Items Easily Fixed No Clear Central Planning Atlas, CMS paying for some facilities No Clear “Ownership” of Facilities No R & D Lack of Coordination within CERN (TS e.g.) Lack of Coordination with Other Institutes, Working Groups Preliminary Findings
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 6 Costs Inaction by CERN, Collaborations Expensive Lost Time (Very Expensive) Lack of Coordination (Hidden Costs) Inability of Some Collaborators to Participate (Invaluable) Travel? (Perhaps - Bad Argument) Preliminary Findings
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 7 Organizational Video conferencing Facilities Phone Conferencing Facilities Other Collaborative Tools Users Preliminary Recommendations
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 8 CERN Infrastructure All meeting rooms set up for video conferencing Preferably in a uniform manner Simplification of room set-up Training if necessary A Dedicated Service providing Meeting support (set-up at least) Maintenance of rooms Coordination providing Continual assessment of technologies Continual assessment of LHC needs Recommendations for equipping of room Long-term planning and vision Preliminary Recommendations
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 9 Users Adequate set-up time Provision of meeting operator Range from participant (VRVS) Technician (Access Grid) Training sessions? Preliminary Recommendations
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 10 Videoconferencing ESnet vs. VRVS No choice of one over the other Compatibility with both Microsoft Approach to Everything Access Grid Technology Assessment
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CERN - 29 Apr 2004S. Goldfarb, University of Michigan Slide 11 Discussed or Discussing Organization, Coordination CERN Facilities Videoconferencing Tools and Facilities H323, VIC, VAT, etc. ESnet, VRVS Phone Conferencing Facilities Other Activities RCWG, HTASC - CSMM Discussion Still Needed Desktop Environments Training, Lecture Archival Immersive Environments, Application Sharing, Grid Integration, etc. Time Scale? End June, Early July Status of RTAG 12
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