1. Banging on the Door of the University Alison Fuller and Lorna Unwin SKOPE/LLAKES Seminar July 3rd 2012 alison.fuller@soton.ac.uk l.unwin@ioe.ac.uk

2. Back to the future: vocational HE in a separate space? 1. Previous government - Expansion of HE through vocational pathways including Advanced Apprenticeship (AA) 2. Can AA and Level 3 VQS deliver? 3. Now – focus on academic pathways and ‘university’ HE as elite route - apprenticeship progression separate from academic progression

3. Purpose of Apprenticeship Model of learning – occupational expertise – ‘becoming a....’ (journeyman - master) Journey continues ‘educationally’ – HNC/HND (Foundation Degree) – extra year – degree – chartered status Now – instrument of government policy – opaque ‘Levels’, VQs of different weights - uncertain progression between programmes 3

4. Higher (‘degree-level’) Apprenticeships By radically expanding the number of degree level apprenticeships for young people, we will put practical learning on a level with academic study. This is an essential step that will help re-balance our economy and build a society in which opportunity and reward are fairly and productively distributed. (Vince Cable December 1 st 2011) 4

5. Ladders and Missing/Dodgy Rungs Level 2 – Intermediate Apprenticeship Level 3 – Advanced Apprenticeship Level 4/5/6 – Higher Apprenticeship – Honours Degree or new Level 6 BTEC Extended Diploma 5

6. Research and Case Study Sectors Data problematic – apprentices not differentiated + limited data on part-timers UCAS – BTECs, Equestrian Certs, NVQ 3 Accountancy AA into ‘HE’ – 2006 8.4% to 2009 11.2% pre-SASE – now Frameworks diluted – minimum 37 QCF credits – unit-based – not mandatory for separate knowledge- based qualification (‘Technical Certificate’)

7. Case Study Sectors Engineering Accountancy Children and Young People’s Workforce Business and Administration

8. Variable Reality of ‘Levels’/Content Aeronautical Engineering – min QCF credits 240, NVQ3 (165 credits), BTEC NatCert = 285 credits + 80-280 UCAS points Accountancy – min QCF credits 51, NVQ3 (41 credits) = 160 UCAS points Children – min QCF credits 83, Level 3 Diploma (65 credits) = 0 UCAS points Business/Admin – min QCF credits 72, NVQ3 (40 credits)+ Level Cert (17 credits) = 0 points

9. You will go to the ball “Your career doesn’t have to stop at the Intermediate or Advanced Apprenticeship, if you want to go on to university you will find that many institutes of higher education value your skills and knowledge and will happily offer you a place on a Foundation Degree or other higher level qualifications.” (NAS website) 9

10. Engineering (28) Majority of universities provided no info on apprenticeship 3 said unacceptable 2 stated NVQs unacceptable 2 offered Foundation Degrees Some said ‘contact us’ So – very difficult to move from AA to bachelor degree

11. Accountancy (66) 38 no info on NVQ3 as entry qualification 3 said unacceptable 20 acceptable if combined with other quals Majority did not mention apprenticeship – 7 said not acceptable 1 did a Foundation Degree – no info on entry criteria 11

12. Children and Young People’s Workforce (21) 8 had no info on NVQ3 I said not acceptable (4 said yes but in combination with other quals) Majority didn’t mention apprenticeship at all 6 said would consider AA on own or in combination FDs – some said accept NVQ3 and/or AA CACHE FULL-TIME – elephant in the room? 12

13. Business and Administration (42) Majority didn’t mention NVQ3 or apprenticeships 5 said AA unacceptable 11 acceptable or in combination with other quals ‘Contact us’ 8 offered FDs – 3 gave info on work-based entry – combinations and ‘contact us'

14. Some Issues Re-establish link between apprenticeship and occupational career progression In ‘new’ sectors – what should the journey look like? Public money? Higher Apprenticeship could be detached from Level 3 – direct entry Implications for content, pedagogy of both apprenticeship and degree courses Data a nightmare!