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Where have France’s Accountants come from? A short presentation by Carlos Ramirez Department of Accounting and Management Control HEC Paris.

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1 Where have France’s Accountants come from? A short presentation by Carlos Ramirez Department of Accounting and Management Control HEC Paris

2 The French profession as you (maybe) know it 19 303 professionals Founded in 1969 18 570 professionals Founded in 1945… well, actually 1942

3 Why are there two French Professions? Accounting vs auditing: for a very long time, audit and accounting have been two separate things in France Clochemerle: although both institutions have been headed successively by the same men, they have been, until recently, very often at war “Deux fois plus de légions d’honneur…”

4 Why are French accountants so few? Turf battles: an history of exclusion before recognition Sole practice as a model: from the expert in accounting to the expert-comptable Lesser brothers: generally, a lack of or very belated interest from the State in the development of a strong accountancy profession

5 Why have relations between certain (Anglo-American) firms and French professional institutions been at times uneasy? Worlds apart: a presence in France that dates back a long time but a more recent interest in the French market for professional services Wars of attrition: from confronting the invaders to developping an alternative professional model Winners take all: inner workings of the domination of the Big 4 firms on the French profession

6 Why is it interesting to study the history of French accountants? An attempt at filling a gap in sociological and historical knowledge A better understanding of what cultural differences mean A global perspective: from comparison to confrontation


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