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1 AMS 599 Special Topics in Applied Mathematics Lecture 8 James Glimm Department of Applied Mathematics and Statistics, Stony Brook University Brookhaven National Laboratory

2 Turbulence Theories Many theories, many papers Last major unsolved problem of classical physics New development –Large scale computing –Computing in general allows solutions for nonlinear problems –Generally fails for multiscale problems

3 Multiscale Science Problems which involve a span of interacting length scales –Easy case: fine scale theory defines coefficients and parameters used by coarse scale theory Example: viscosity in Navier-Stokes equation, comes from Boltzmann equation, theory of interacting particles, or molecular dynamics, with Newton’s equation for particles and forces between particles

4 Multiscale Hard case –Fine scale and coarse scales are coupled –Solution of each affects the other –Generally intractable for computation Example: –Suppose a grid of 1000 3 is used for coarse scale part of the problem. –Suppose fine scales are 10 or 100 times smaller –Computational effort increases by factor of 10 4 or 10 8 –Cost not feasible –Turbulence is classical example of multiscale science

5 Origin of Multiscale Science as a Concept @Article{GliSha97, author = "J. Glimm and D. H. Sharp", title = "Multiscale Science", journal = "SIAM News", year = "1997", month = oct, }

6 Four Useful Theories for Turbulence Large Eddy Simulation (LES) and Subgrid Scale Models (SGS) –Last week’s lecture Kolmogorov 41 PDF convergence in the LES regime Renormalization group –I will not discuss this topic –Aside from its use for turbulence to date, its potential is probably high }

7 LES and SGS From last lecture Based on the idea that effect of small scales on the large ones can be estimated and compensated for.

8 Kolmogorov 41 The opposite and also very successful idea in turbulence is that the main coupling and influence between length scales is that large scale motions (eddies) influence small scale motions (eddies) but not the opposite. Distinguish three ranges of length scales: –Large scale motions, very problem dependent and nonuniversal. Called the energy containing eddies –Intermediate scale motions, called the inertial range, because governed by Euler, not Navier-Stokes effects –Dissipation range, in which viscosity plays a role. Starts at a length scale for which the flow is laminar (nonturbulent), called the Kolmogorov scale K41 is a theory of the inertial range. It is a theory for E. It is a theory for E(k) as a function of k, for frequencies corresponding to the inertial range

9 K41 and E(k) G. Batchelor, The theory of homogeneous Turbulence. Cambridge University Press. 1955, Chapter 6

10 Dimensional Analysis

11 K41: Hypothesis of Universal Tubulence in the Inertial Range Dimension [] of E(k): E(k) must have the identical form for every k in the inertial range, by the universal assumption. Thus E(k) can depend only on k and epsilon

12 K41, concluded

13 PDF Convergence @Article{CheGli10, author = "G.-Q. Chen and J. Glimm", title = "{K}olmogorov's Theory of Turbulence and Inviscid Limit of the {N}avier-{S}tokes equations in ${R}^3$", year = "2010", journal = "Commun. Math. Phys.", note = "Submitted for Publication",

14 Idea of PDF Convergence “In 100 years the mean sea surface temperature will rise by xx degrees C” “The number of major hurricanes for this season will lie between nnn and NNN” “The probability of rain tomorrow is xx%”

15 Convergence Strict (mathematical) convergence –Limit as Delta x -> 0 –This involves arbitrarily fine grids –And DNS simulations –Limit is (presumably) a smooth solution, and convergence proceeds to this limit in the usual manner

16 LES convergence LES convergence describes the nature of the solution while the simulation is still in the LES regime This means that dissipative forces play essentially no role –As in the K41 theory –As when using SGS models because turbulent SGS transport terms are much larger than the molecular ones Accordingly the molecular ones can be ignored

17 LES convergence is a theory of convergence for solutions of the Euler, not the Navier Stokes equations Mathematically Euler equation convegence is highly intractable, since even with viscosity (DNS convergence, for the Navier Stokes equation), this is one of the famous Millenium problems (worth $1M).

18 Two equations, Two Theories One Hypothesis Hypothesis: assume K41, and an indquality, an upper bound, for the kinetic energy First equation –Incompressible Navier Stokes equation –Above with passive scalars Main result –Convergence in L p, some p to a weak solution (1 st case) –Convergence (weak*) as Young’s measures (PDFs) (2 nd case)

19 Incompressible Navier-Stokes Equation (3D)

20 Definitions Weak solution –Multiply Navier Stokes equation by test function, integrate by parts, identity must hold. L p convergence: in L p norm w* convergence for passive scalars chi_i –Chi_i = mass fraction, thus in L_\infty. –Multiply by an element of dual space of L_\infty –Resulting inner product should converge after passing to a subsequence –Theorem: Limit is a PDF depending on space and time, ie a measure valued function of space and time. –Theorem: Limit PDF is a solution of NS + passive scalars equation.


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