1. LHCb Report - G4 Technical Forum Pre-production Physics List tests Recent productions used − Geant4 9.4.patch02 − Electromagnetic: EmOption1 (with the ApplyCuts removed) − Hadronic: LHEP Scope of validations for future production − Use Geant4 9.5.patch02 − Electromagnetic EmOption1 (with the ApplyCuts removed) vs. EmStd, EmOpt1, EmOpt3, EmLHCb (private version prepared for us in 2011) − Hadronic: LHEP vs. FTFP_BERT, GQSP_FTFP_BERT, QGSP_BERT_CHIPS Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF26 Mar 20131

2. Electromagnetic Studied with full LHCb geometry, particle guns and min. bias samples Variations between all lists found to be very small − EmNoCuts, EmOpt1, EmStd, EmOpt3, EmLHCb No significant gain so conclusion to remain with current list − EmOption1/no ApplyCuts 2Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF26 Mar 2013

3. Hadronic cross-sections Standalone tests of cross-sections (no detector geometry) − Protons, kaons, pions on Al, Si, Be − Anticipated to use FTFP_BERT as improved thin layer modelling of hadronic interactions (including K ± ) and anti-baryons and light anti- ions, and CHIPS cross-sections. − Found (and G4 very quickly fixed – thanks!) LHEP cross-sections being used in FTFP_BERT for kaons 3Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF26 Mar 2013

4. Hadronic cross-sections 4Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF26 Mar 2013 Tests of inferred cross-sections (simplified geometry, but using LHCb simulation framework) Protons, kaons, pions on Al, Si, Be Inelastic cross-section (10mm Al) FTFP_BERT closer to data for protons

5. Hadronic cross-sections 5Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF26 Mar 2013 Asymmetries between particle/antiparticle Protons, kaons, pions, on …

6. Hadronic interactions 6Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF26 Mar 2013 Inclusive particle multiplicities Positive fraction Studied for kaons, protons, similar conclusions, FTFP_BERT more reasonably behaved

7. Kaon and pion cross-section asymmetries 7Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF26 Mar 2013 LHEP physics list used previously gave ~acceptable kaon asymmetry, but problematic pion asymmetry Study using D 0  K  from semileptonic B decay − Extract interaction asymmetry from “reconstructible” efficiency − Compare with estimate of asymmetry from PDG and material map

8. 8/15 Interaction asymmetry from PDG 26 Mar 2013 Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF Data from PDG (Compas group in Protvino) See http://pdg.lbl.gov/2012/hadronic-xsections/hadron.htmlhttp://pdg.lbl.gov/2012/hadronic-xsections/hadron.html Or PDG p.447-454 Kaon and pion cross sections on proton and deuterium 8/15

9. 9/15 Kπ asymmetry in PDG and data 26 Mar 2013 Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF All details described in internal note LHCb-INT-2012-027 https://cds.cern.ch/record/1482647?ln=en Data above PDG predictions. Translates into (30±20)% more material. Uncertainty mainly from material budget knowledge. Scoring plane at z=9410mm gives A kπ =0.93±0.08% → add 0.08% as systematic Scoring plane at z=9410mm gives A kπ =0.93±0.08% → add 0.08% as systematic preliminary 9/15 Data plot removed after the meeting, was not an “officially approved” result. Will be updated when an equivalent version becomes available.

10. 10/15 Geant cross sections for kaons 26 Mar 2013 Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF Same kaon cross-sections as previously shown Worry: kaon cross sections slightly lower for FTFP_BERT compared to LHEP 10/15

11. 11/15 MC11 (LHEP) asymmetries 26 Mar 2013 Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF From previous 9.4.patch02 production setup in LHCb (LHEP list) Kaon asymmetry looks ok. Pion asymmetry way off. preliminary 11/15

12. 12/15 Sim08 (LHEP) asymmetries 26 Mar 2013 Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF Using 9.5.patch02 setup in LHCb (LHEP list) Nominally unchanged G4 physics Kaon asymmetry for low momentum now too high Pion asymmetry further off At one level, should not worry as we will not use this PL, but… preliminary 12/15

13. 13/15 Sim08 (FTFP_BERT) asymmetries 26 Mar 2013 Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF Using 9.5.patch02 setup in LHCb (FTFP_BERT list) Kaon asymmetry too low (esp. for high momentum). Pion asymmetry is ok now (note changed A  scale cf. previous slide) preliminary 13/15

14. Summary Pre-production tests completed, MC production to start tomorrow G4 9.5.patch02, FTFP_BERT, EmOpt1 (no ApplyCuts) Thanks to G4 team − for rapid fix of CHIPS cross-section in FTFTP_BERT for kaons − (Witek et al.) in advance for investigation of crashes Thanks to collaborators for most material today − Jeroen van Tilburg (Physikalisches Institut Heidelberg) − Jimmy McCarthy, Pete Griffith, Luca Pescatore (Birmingham) − Gloria 1426 Mar 2013Nigel Watson (Birmingham Umiv.) / Geant4 TF