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The Problems With Time Neuroenigmas Lecture January 19, 2007
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Neural processing is not instantaneous
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40 ms Neural processing is not instantaneous
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40 ms 100 ms Neural processing is not instantaneous
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When is this a problem?
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100 mph fast ball moves 15 feet in 100 ms
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How might we compensate for neural delays?
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Sensory compensation Motor compensation
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http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/vsearch/research/objectupdating/obj_index.html
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Theories to explain flash-lag effect Motion extrapolation Motion integration and post diction Latency differences for moving and stationary items Attentional capture by flashed item Citation for review
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Flag errors in soccer games: the flash-lag effect brought to real life Perception, 2002, volume 31, pages 1205 ^ 1210 Marcus Vinicius C Baldo, Ronald D Ranvaud, Edgard Morya DOI:10.1068/p3422
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Psychophysics +
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-1.0 -0.5 0 0.5 1.0 Psychophysics + 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 Isolated Flash Subject JD Position (deg) Proportion reported right -1.0 -0.5 0 0.5 1.0
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Psychophysics + 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 Isolated Flash Subject JD Position (deg) Proportion reported right
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-1.0 -0.5 0 0.5 1.0 Psychophysics + 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 Flash in motion Subject JD Position (deg) Proportion reported right -1.0 -0.5 0 0.5 1.0
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Psychophysics + 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 Flash in motion Subject JD Position (deg) Proportion reported right -1.0 -0.5 0 0.5 1.0.39 o
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Physiology
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Tootell, R. B., M. S. Silverman, et al. Science (1982) Retinotopy in cat
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Prediction: Under conditions that give rise to the perceived shift, receptive fields should shift in a direction opposite to motion direction.
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RF Physiology
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RF Physiology
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RF Physiology flash positions
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RF Physiology flash positions
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate
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Physiology 1.2 2.02.83.64.45.2 6.0.4 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 0100 400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate Position (deg) right left baseline
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Physiology 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 0100200500 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate 1.2 2.02.83.64.45.2 6.0.4 firing rate Position (deg) right left baseline
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Physiology 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 0100400 0 10 20 30 40 50 Time (ms) firing rate 1.2 2.02.83.64.45.2 6.0.4 firing rate Position (deg) right left baseline
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Physiology 0 50 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 1.2 2.02.83.64.45.2 6.0.4 firing rate Position (deg) right left baseline
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Physiology 0 50 0150 0 50 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 1.2 2.02.83.64.45.2 6.0.4 firing rate Position (deg) right left baseline
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Physiology 0 50 0150 0 50 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 1.2 2.02.83.64.45.2 6.0.4 1 o firing rate Position (deg) right left baseline
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flash positions RF Physiology
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0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 1.2 2.02.83.64.45.2 6.0.4 firing rate Position (deg)
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Physiology 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 1.2 2.02.83.64.45.2 6.0.4 firing rate Position (deg)
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Physiology 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 * * ** * * * 1.2 2.02.8.4 Inward Outward firing rate Position (deg)
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Physiology 10121416 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 * * * * * ** * * * * 1.2 2.02.8.4 Inward Outward firing rate Position (deg)
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Physiology 10121416 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 * * * * * ** * * * * Shift Index = 1.2 o 1.2 2.02.8.4 Inward Outward firing rate Position (deg)
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Example cell Physiology 0.4.81.21.62.02.42.8 0 50 100 150 200 firing rate position (deg) 0.4.81.21.62.02.42.8 0 10 20 30 40 50 firing rate position (deg) 0.4.81.21.62.02.42.8 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 firing rate position (deg) 0.4.81.21.62.02.42.8 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 firing rate position (deg) * ** * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * S.I. = 1.2 o S.I. = 0.4 o S.I. = 0.8 o
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Physiology -2.002.0 0 5 10 15 20 Mean S.I. =.31 o p <.0001 n = 59 number of cells Position (deg)
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-2.002.0 0 5 10 15 20 Physiology Full Motion sequence Mean S.I. =.31 o p <.0001 n = 59 number of cells Position (deg)
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Physiology Full Motion sequence Shift across population =.31 o p <.0001
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Physiology Full Motion sequence Shift across population =.31 o p <.0001 Flash Terminal sequence
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Physiology Full Motion sequence Shift across population =.31 o p <.0001 Flash Terminal sequence Shift across population =.34 o p <.0001
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Physiology Full Motion sequence Shift across population =.31 o p <.0001 Flash Terminal sequence Shift across population =.34 o p <.0001 Single Color sequence
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Physiology Full Motion sequence Shift across population =.31 o p <.0001 Flash Terminal sequence Shift across population =.34 o p <.0001 Single Color sequence Shift across population =.12 o p =.14
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Physiology Non-Color Selective Cells Similar results to full population
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Summary
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Spatial representation of the the flashed element is distorted
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Summary Spatial representation of the the flashed element is distorted Apparent in the first responses
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Summary Spatial representation of the the flashed element is distorted Apparent in the first responses Similar in magnitude to mislocalization in humans
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Summary Spatial representation of the the flashed element is distorted Apparent in the first responses Similar in magnitude to mislocalization in humans Motion alone is not sufficient to induce shift
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Summary Spatial representation of the the flashed element is distorted Apparent in the first responses Similar in magnitude to mislocalization in humans Motion alone is not sufficient to induce shift Dissociation between perception and V4 physiology in the flashed terminal condition
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Summary Spatial representation of the the flashed element is distorted Apparent in the first responses Similar in magnitude to mislocalization in humans Motion alone is not sufficient to induce shift Dissociation between perception and V4 physiology in the flashed terminal condition V4 distortion does not require motion following the flash
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Probability Position Full motion condition Flash terminal condition
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Bhavin R. Sheth, Romi Nijhawan, & Shinsuke Shimojo. (2000). Changing objects lead briefly flashed ones. Nature Neuroscience 3, 489-495.
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David Alais & David Burr. (2003). The flash-lag effect occurs in audition and crossmodally. Current Biology 13, 59-63.
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R.H. Cai, K. Jacobson, R. Baloh, M. Schlag-Rey & J. Schlag. (2000) Vestibular signals can distort the perceived spatial relationship of retinal stimuli. Experimental Brain Research 135, 275-278.
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Alan Johnston & Shinya Nishida (2001). “Time perception: brain time or event time. Current Biology 11, R427-R430. K. Moutoussis and S. Zeki, Functional segregation and temporal hierarchy of the visual perceptive systems. Proc R Soc Lond [Biol] Biol Sci 264 (1997), pp. 1407– 1414. Color Motion Asynchrony Illusion
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