1. Carlsmith Ball LLP Confidentiality Issues and Outside Counsel Deborah Bjes October 22 nd, 2015

2. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes Now what? Potential issue with outside counsel? 2

3. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes May or may not be privileged from client Internal firm communications 3

4. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes Ethical duties to client trump attorney- client privilege vs. No ethical exception to attorney-client privilege Courts split on nature of internal communications 4

5. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes  State v. federal court  Role of consulting attorney  Statutes governing privilege Considerations 5

6. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes Model Rule 1.4: Communications (a) A lawyer shall:… (3) keep the client reasonably informed about the status of the matter.… (b) A lawyer shall explain a matter to the extent reasonably necessary to permit the client to make informed decisions regarding the representation. The duty to disclose 6

7. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes Loyalty and independent judgment are essential elements… Concurrent conflicts of interest can arise from the lawyer's responsibilities to another client …or from the lawyer's own interests. Comment: ABA Model Rule 1.7 7

8. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes "Lid“ on intra-firm communications "lifted." Thelen, Reid & Priest LLP V. Marland 2007 WL 578989 (N.D. Cal. February 21, 2007) No privilege 8

9. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes Privilege must give way to …current clients who may be harmed by the conflict. When a law firm represents itself, it runs the risk of creating an impermissible conflict of interest. In re SonicBlue, Inc. 2008 WL 170562 (N.D.Cal. May 19, 2010). No privilege 9

10. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes Privilege exists, but law firm must factually establish attorney-client relationship. Court noted: -Consultations are not always adverse to client. -Firms often employ ethics & claims attorneys. -Privilege does not excuse duty to report claim. Palmer v. Superior Court 231 Cal. App.4 th 1214 (2014). California's statutory privilege 10

11. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes The attorney-client privilege guarantees the confidentiality necessary to ensure that partners, associates and employees provide information needed for sound legal advice. RFF Family Partnership, LP v. Burns & Levinson, LLP 465 Mass. 702, 991 N.E.2d 1066 (2013) Upholds privilege 11

12. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes  Withdraw as counsel  Obtain consent of client  Disclose conflict to client RFF Family Partnership, LP v. Burns & Levinson, LLP Client argued, for privilege to apply, lawyer seeking advise had to first: 12

13. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes Withdraw from representation unnecessarily Withdraw without protecting client's interest Not obtain advice on potential conflict Sugar-coat facts Incur extra expense to retain outside counsel RFF Family Partnership, LP v. Burns & Levinson, LLP Court disagrees: Without the privilege, law firm may: 13

14. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes “dysfunctional” both to the client and the law firm. RFF Family Partnership LP v. Burns & Levinson, LLP Court characterized client’s assertions as… 14

15. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes  Did lawyer consult with general counsel?  Did consulting attorney work on the file?  Have you been billed for the consult?  Has firm maintained confidentiality? Communications Are they privileged? 15

16. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes  Will this create tension with a firm that generally supports your business?  Is the firm’s work generally excellent?  Will a request create conflicts?  Are you curtailing a plan to assist? Internal Communications Do you really require them? 16

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18. Carlsmith Ball LLP | October 22, 2015 | Deborah Bjes Thank you! 18