1. 1 Achieving Local Availability of Group SA Ya Liu, liuya@huawei.comliuya@huawei.com Bill Atwood, bill@cse.concordia.cabill@cse.concordia.ca Brian Weis, bew@cisco.com IETF 70, Dec 2007, Vancouver

2. 2 Background Group security model is used in OSPFv3 IPsec and PIM-SM link-local security. –Please refer to RFC4552 and draft-ietf-pim-sm- linklocal for more details. Currently, only the manual keying method is proposed. –Manual method is neither scalable nor secure. It has been proposed to achieve automated group keying for OSPF and PIM using MSEC GKM protocols. –Please refer to draft-liu-ospfv3-automated-keying-req and draft-ietf-pim-sm-linklocal for more details. IETF 70, Dec 2007, Vancouver

3. 3 A Chicken & Egg Issue MSEC GKM protocols fail in the OSPF case because they are based on a client/server model. This means these protocols rely on reachability between clients and servers for the clients to obtain the group SA from the key server. In the OSPF case, the GKM is providing protection for OSPF, which is an essential component in providing reachability between the clients and servers. Hence, the client/server model breaks down in this situation. PIM has no such issue. –Thus, the solution for OSPF also applies to PIM. IETF 70, Dec 2007, Vancouver

4. 4 Possible Solutions Locally deploying GCKS –No extensions are needed. Separating GC/KS, and locally deploying KS while centrally deploying GC –For cost consideration, the KS can be logical. For example, a protocol (e.g., OSPF, PIM) speaking router works as the KS of its listeners. –An extension to specify the protocol between a centralized GC and the individual KS is needed. Locally deploying delegates, centrally deploying GCKS –An extension to relay group keying service between the centralized GCKS and local group members is needed. IETF 70, Dec 2007, Vancouver

5. 5 Suggestion Choose one solution and standardize it. –If extensions to MSEC GKM protocols are necessary, such work SHOULD be done in MSEC. –Both OSPF WG and PIM WG need to write their own I-Ds to profile use of MSEC GKM protocols. –Optionally, MSEC WG may produce an guideline doc to introduce the use of MSEC GKM protocols in other control plane protocols, such as OSPF, PIM, RSVP, etc. IETF 70, Dec 2007, Vancouver

6. 6 Comments? Thanks! IETF 70, Dec 2007, Vancouver