1. Reaching the limits of a policy argument (and giving the client the bad news ) Robert Anderson Professor of the Practice of Law University of Denver Sturm College of Law randerson@law.du.edu

2.  Fact gathering  Exploring policy arguments  Reaching the limits of policy  Giving the client the bad news A modular exercise

3.  Context for the exercise  Exploring the keys to objective analysis  Understanding the power of binding authority  Set up for the exercise A modular exercise

4.  Divide students into attorney-client pairs  Attorney conducts client interview 1 st module: fact gathering

5.  Provide primer on search and seizure law  Lead discussion of policy and fairness arguments 2 nd module: exploring policy

6.  Read and discuss Caballes v. Illinois  Listen to and discuss U.S. v. Johnson oral argument 3 rd module: Reaching the limits of policy

7.  Return class to attorney-client teams  Attorney delivers Caballes analysis to client  Client responds 4 th module: Giving the client the bad news

8.  Take it slow  Can’t take it slow? Break it into pieces Lessons learned

9.  Similarly themed exercises?  Your lessons learned?  Suggested mods and patches? Questions: yours and mine